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Offline Dichotomy

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 09:22:46 PM »
Until the factors that contributed to this are determined speculation, while intellectually interesting, is just that.  Speculation.   

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 09:37:59 PM »
    I cant imagine that roof was designed for any loading at all.

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 09:38:04 PM »
well someone who structurally engineered that Roof is going to have some explaining to do, wether systems failed to prevent the buildup on the Roof will have to be determined
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 09:44:43 PM »
    I cant imagine that roof was designed for any loading at all.

That would be professional suicide for any structural engineer.  We don't know the factors that were involved but it will probably be released eventually and studied extensively.  Grizz is much more well informed on this area of expertise than I am so any speculation at this point is only that.  Speculation. 

They just showed it again at halftime and it looks to me like the fabric failed and caused a catastrophic failure across the boards.  What factors contributed to that are really difficult to ascertain at this point. 

But again that's just speculation.

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2010, 07:59:33 AM »
It's simple.  The weight of the wet snow exceeded the holding capacity of the roof and the heating space in between the two layers of fabric.
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2010, 10:57:43 AM »
It's simple.  The weight of the wet snow exceeded the holding capacity of the roof and the heating space in between the two layers of fabric.

Yeah but that's ridiculous from a design standpoint.  Either the fabric capacity was incorrect or the design snow loads were incorrect I would think. 

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2010, 11:07:41 AM »
Grizz,

I read an article this morning that said they were cleaning the snow off Saturday evening but stopped for safety reasons. 
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2010, 01:49:27 PM »
I wonder if it was designed to require constant snow removal?

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2010, 01:51:30 PM »
The fact that the dome is 27 years old wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2010, 02:14:49 PM »
Strip, great minds think alike. :devil
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2010, 02:16:19 PM »
Don't know.  I asked the PE I work with what he thought this morning.  'Too much snow' was the answer  :lol  But he said if he saw anything in his periodicals or email alerts he'd forward the information to me.  
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2010, 02:17:58 PM »
The SR-71 was engineered quite some time ago. Still as amazing today as it was way back then.

I think the failure may have been in the tests conducted on the teflon material. There is some reason they used teflon.... could it have been a thought that snow would not stick to it? Nobody on the outside will ever know. We have no insight on why they chose the fabric that they did.

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2010, 02:37:11 PM »
...this isn't the first time that roof has collapsed due to excess snow...someone already provided a link that goes into detail about previous collapses
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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2010, 02:42:02 PM »
The SR-71 was engineered quite some time ago. Still as amazing today as it was way back then.

I think the failure may have been in the tests conducted on the teflon material. There is some reason they used teflon.... could it have been a thought that snow would not stick to it? Nobody on the outside will ever know. We have no insight on why they chose the fabric that they did.



Your comparing a high performance aircraft engineering to structural engineering?

One with nearly an unlimited budget no less....not exactly apples to apples.

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Re: Metrodome Roof Collapses?
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2010, 02:44:58 PM »
The fact that the dome is 27 years old wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?

 :rolleyes:

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27 years isn't that old.