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Offline Melvin

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More Garand questions
« on: December 19, 2010, 09:55:37 PM »
I have this Garand.

         U.S. Rifle
        Cal. 30 M1
        Springfield
          Armory
         375XXX

The Man that gave it to me said he had it "accurized".

I'm not sure what that procedure is, but it's obvious that the stock has been modified and the fore-grip has been removed. The bayonet lug appears to be different from G.I. as well.

My question is this:

Can anybody tell me what would be needed to restore this weapon to G.I. issue?

Also, would it be something worth doing or am I better off leaving it as is?

Any help in I.D. and pointers is much appreciated.

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P.S. The photo doesn't do it justice. This bad boy is immaculate on the surface. The internal mechanisms are fully functional and in good shape. I can't vouch for the barrel, as I don't know how to gauge such things.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2010, 09:58:11 PM by Melvin »
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 10:53:43 PM »
That's a weird looking garand. :cool:
Maybe it's the angle of the photo, but the gas piston looks bent. I'd also look for a forward hand grip as well. I read that a really loose forward handgrip will throw your accuracy off so I don't know how it will work for you since you don't have one.
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 11:35:53 PM »
The stock dosen't go all the way to the end of the barrel like it should, dosen't look right to me...

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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 12:22:04 AM »
Yes Bravoa, that's where the forward handgrip goes

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 02:02:29 AM »
It sucks.  Give it to me and I'll dispose of it for you...

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I guess that's one way to keep the handguards from touching the barrel.  :headscratch: I haven't seen any rifles like that but I haven't been to that many service rifle shoots either.

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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 02:10:04 AM »
The stock dosen't go all the way to the end of the barrel like it should, dosen't look right to me...


I have this Garand.

         U.S. Rifle
        Cal. 30 M1
        Springfield
          Armory
         375XXX

The Man that gave it to me said he had it "accurized".

I'm not sure what that procedure is, but it's obvious that the stock has been modified and the fore-grip has been removed. The bayonet lug appears to be different from G.I. as well.

My question is this:

Can anybody tell me what would be needed to restore this weapon to G.I. issue?

Also, would it be something worth doing or am I better off leaving it as is?

Any help in I.D. and pointers is much appreciated.

<S> Melvin

(Image removed from quote.)


P.S. The photo doesn't do it justice. This bad boy is immaculate on the surface. The internal mechanisms are fully functional and in good shape. I can't vouch for the barrel, as I don't know how to gauge such things.

« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 02:11:46 AM by Banshee7 »
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 06:47:37 PM »
Bump for answers. Thanks to those that took interest.

<S> Melvin

It appears that the front sight has been modified from G.I. as well.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 06:50:25 PM by Melvin »
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 07:04:26 PM »
why'd you buy it bro?
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 08:38:05 PM »
why'd you buy it bro?

Was a gift from a rifleman friend of the Family.

I just don't know if I should return it to G.I. specs, or if the modifications serve a worthy purpose.

My eyes aren't good enough to shoot long range competitions.

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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 09:03:32 PM »
The gas cylinder has been cleaned up and looks chromed. That changes the value as a collector somewhat. You do need the fore end pieces as well if you want it back to GI. You can get the gas cylinder parkerized so it looks normal again. That shouldn't have any effect on accuracy.

Accurizing a Garand normally involves a new barrel, a glass bedded stock and some trigger work. I have never seen or heard of anything that would require the removal of the fore stock and chroming the gas cylinder. You might want to get it looked at by a smith that is familiar with M1's.
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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 09:27:44 PM »
The thing is that there is no lug for the bayonet anymore. I've seen these shined up units before, and was just wondering if it would be difficult to replace it with G.I. style. (I want a bayonet to fit as well.)

As far as the "accurizing" of the rifle, I've thought about what John said to me and I believe that a new barrel was involved.

I don't know what a glass bedded stock looks like, but this one appears to have been modified where the receiver and barrel meet wood.

I can't begin to guess on what the weight of trigger pull is.

I've had this rifle at the range and fired dozens of rounds through it. All systems are functional and I don't feel any danger. (Unless you be on the wrong end.)  BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG PING

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Re: More Garand questions
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 10:25:49 AM »
Take it to a gunsmith and have the headspace checked before you fire it again.

You can buy stock parts here.

These guys sell parts are and are reputable.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/


Foreend stock 30 bucks, you may need the hardware too.
Gas cylinder, new 199$, used good 129$ (this part is critical to how the rifle will work)
New barrel 275 to 325$

They sell several books on the M1 that are must haves.

Looking at the pic again your going to need a whole new stock and front site at least.  I would strip it down and carefully check the reciever to make sure it hasnt been welded back together from two different receivers. There is an FAQ on the Fulton site that talks about this, and how dangerous a reweld is. Make sure its safe before you shoot it anymore.

They are great fun though once you know it's safe.

Whoever did that hack job to a wonderful rifle like that should be ashamed of themselves. That's like chopping up a classic car... And you can make them damn accurate without messing with the way the stock looks. I would not trust that rifle until it was checked out by a pro, who knows what other amature crap was done to it it. It could blow up in your face.
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