P-26 PEASHOOTER

[fbWldcat]

You guys may laugh, but people WOULD fly it in-game, it WOULD shoot down Japanese planes and it WOULD be useful with shooting Japanese planes up in the Pearl Harbor special events. Poor arament doesn't mean uselessness. Although it probably isn't very high on anyone's to-do-list over at HTC, it would be nice to see eventually.

[Tyrannis]

This has got to be a troll...

They were being phased out well before the US entered the war. The few that were still around were more often than not exports.

China, which had 11 of the plane, claimed two G3M Nell bombers with the P-26.

The Philippines apparently had a squadron on hand, but most were bombed on the ground. The few that took off downed 1 bomber and maybe a couple of fighters before being burned on the ground by December 24th 1941. Yes, a whopping handful ever flew combat, and that combat lasted about 2 weeks after the US entered the war.


Suuuuure... This is REALLY a worthwhile plane to add to the game. I can see it adds soooo much to the planeset and the history of WW2. 

you sound more like a troll than i do...


whats your point about it being an export? doesnt mean that disqualifies it from being added into the game. let me remind you the p39 was exported to russia and its in the game...

your wrong, they claimed 8 g3ms along with several a5m "claudes".

and the point is they got kills in the Philippians. air to air kills.

and it holds a record in world war 2.  a5m claudes vs p-26 peashooters engaging were the first ever aerial dogfights in china.

1st Pursuit Group (17th, 27th, and 94th PS), Selfridge Field, Michigan;
8th Pursuit Group (33rd, 35th, and 36th PS), Langley Field, Virginia;
16th Pursuit Group (24th and 78th PS), Albrook Field, Panama Canal Zone;
17th Pursuit Group (34th, 73d, and 95th PS), March Field, California
18th Pursuit Group (6th and 19th PS), Wheeler Field, Hawaii;
20th Pursuit Group (55th, 77th, and 79th PS), Barksdale Field, Louisiana; and
3d Pursuit Squadron, Clark Field, Philippine Islands.

all the squads who flew them.

so what if its only got .30 cals? even .30 cals can shoot up jap planes easily. it has some fun senarios to its name. so why SHOULDNT it be put in? it served in ww2, got air to air kills, has scenarios, and has a specific place in ww2.

[fbWldcat]

Yes, it would be useful for AH, but it is is probably way down on the list of things to add to the game.

[M0nkey_Man]

even .30 cals can shoot up jap planes easily.

too true, a 22 could take down a jap plane lol

[fbWldcat]

so what if its only got .30 cals? even .30 cals can shoot up jap planes easily. it has some fun senarios to its name. so why SHOULDNT it be put in? it served in ww2, got air to air kills, has scenarios, and has a specific place in ww2.

I never said anything to disagree with this, and I'm assuming you pointed this at me? Yes, shooting anything with anything will eventually take it down, no matter what. 10,000 .308s in a Lanc wing-root will take it out of the sky,  20 BBs might take out an entire squad of Japanese A6M2s. Yes, the Peashooter could be added to the game; it would have weak arament, but for it's purpose in the special events against Japanese fighters, why not?

[Tyrannis]

I never said anything to disagree with this, and I'm assuming you pointed this at me? Yes, shooting anything with anything will eventually take it down, no matter what. 10,000 .308s in a Lanc wing-root will take it out of the sky,  20 BBs might take out an entire squad of Japanese A6M2s. Yes, the Peashooter could be added to the game; it would have weak arament, but for it's purpose in the special events against Japanese fighters, why not?

no everything i said was directed towards krusty.

[Shifty]

I'd love to see the P-26 added one day.



Along with the A5M



and KI-27.



I love the old fixed gear fighters.

[Krusty]

and it holds a record in world war 2.  a5m claudes vs p-26 peashooters engaging were the first ever aerial dogfights in china.

Being the first to engage in combat is a nice footnote, but it is not a record in my book.

They "helped engage" 8 targets in China, but only shot down 2. This is no wonder because the G3M Nell bombers they were attacking are comparable in performance to the G4M Betty. The Peashooters would quickly be outpaced and the rest would get away.

My point about them being exports was the fact that China only bought 11 of them. Wherease the Soviet Union took posession of over 5000 P-39s of all types. Poor attempt on your part to compare the two, as they simply do not compare on any level.

1st Pursuit Group (17th, 27th, and 94th PS), Selfridge Field, Michigan;
8th Pursuit Group (33rd, 35th, and 36th PS), Langley Field, Virginia;
16th Pursuit Group (24th and 78th PS), Albrook Field, Panama Canal Zone;
17th Pursuit Group (34th, 73d, and 95th PS), March Field, California
18th Pursuit Group (6th and 19th PS), Wheeler Field, Hawaii;
20th Pursuit Group (55th, 77th, and 79th PS), Barksdale Field, Louisiana; and
3d Pursuit Squadron, Clark Field, Philippine Islands.

all the squads who flew them.

But.. WHEN did these squadrons fly them? The peak was in 1936, that's when the most units were outfitted with P-26s. That's not to say which units were training units, how many were stateside (most, no doubt) and when they transitioned to the P-36s and other models well before the war started.

so what if its only got .30 cals? even .30 cals can shoot up jap planes easily. it has some fun senarios to its name. so why SHOULDNT it be put in? it served in ww2, got air to air kills, has scenarios, and has a specific place in ww2.

There are no scenarios that would benefit from a P-26 in-game. It had a handful of kills before the US (the primary operator) even joined the war. After the point the US joined the war (Pearl Harbor), there were all of 9 airframes still in service in the Panama area. they did not see any combat in central america.

It's a between-the-wars design that was obsolete and replaced long before it ever got a chance to see true action in the war. All of 2-3 engagements were its combat history. It brings absolutely nothing to the planeset or the game, and is as historically insignificant as the Bf108 Tailfun.

[Karnak]

The P-26 is totally more important than the Ki-43!!!  I mean, what is a 5,900 airframe Japanese aircraft that fought in WWII from start to finish compared to a an AMERICAN fighter that saw a WHOLE handful of fights!!!  Maybe even five whole fights!

[fbWldcat]

The P-26 is totally more important than the Ki-43!!!  I mean, what is a 5,900 airframe Japanese aircraft that fought in WWII from start to finish compared to a an AMERICAN fighter that saw a WHOLE handful of fights!!!  Maybe even five whole fights!

My sarcasm meter just spiked through the roof!

[M0nkey_Man]

My sarcasm meter just spiked through the roof!

[Guppy35]

You guys may laugh, but people WOULD fly it in-game, it WOULD shoot down Japanese planes and it WOULD be useful with shooting Japanese planes up in the Pearl Harbor special events. Poor arament doesn't mean uselessness. Although it probably isn't very high on anyone's to-do-list over at HTC, it would be nice to see eventually.

Where did you see that P26s upped at Pearl Harbor?  I think you mean P-36s that did get into the fight a bit.  The P36 would make far more sense then the P26.  That would include China, Battle of France, Philippines and elsewhere

[321BAR]

1st Pursuit Group (17th, 27th, and 94th PS), Selfridge Field, Michigan;
8th Pursuit Group (33rd, 35th, and 36th PS), Langley Field, Virginia;
16th Pursuit Group (24th and 78th PS), Albrook Field, Panama Canal Zone;
17th Pursuit Group (34th, 73d, and 95th PS), March Field, California
18th Pursuit Group (6th and 19th PS), Wheeler Field, Hawaii;
20th Pursuit Group (55th, 77th, and 79th PS), Barksdale Field, Louisiana; and
3d Pursuit Squadron, Clark Field, Philippine Islands.

all the squads who flew them.

so what if its only got .30 cals? even .30 cals can shoot up jap planes easily. it has some fun senarios to its name. so why SHOULDNT it be put in? it served in ww2, got air to air kills, has scenarios, and has a specific place in ww2.

notice that the 20th FG stopped flying them in 1938... Theres a reason we stopped flying them too...



TIME TO TROLL FOR....


M-18


BECAUSE the P26 is worthless

[fbWldcat]

Where did you see that P26s upped at Pearl Harbor?  I think you mean P-36s that did get into the fight a bit.  The P36 would make far more sense then the P26.  That would include China, Battle of France, Philippines and elsewhere

I read it in PEARL HARBOR: America Enters the War. But seeing as I cannot find the exact page which it was on, I will go ahead and say I was wrong and you were right. At least until I look the book over some more and find the P-26 in there. Who knows? It might've been a typo.

[Tupac]

Didn't a P26 get the first American A2A kill of the war? I might be mistaken, but i remember reading it somewhere