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Offline usvi

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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2010, 10:55:28 AM »
Coming soon...Aces High for the XBOX 360!



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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 11:01:47 AM »
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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 12:21:03 PM »
I do think all attack/fighters should default to attack when ord is strapped on and default to fighter when there's none.

Agreed ..and so much more.
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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 12:29:40 PM »
I feel like your results may be invalid because as you fly the il2 you are also improving your familiarity with the il2 and bound to improve over the month despite the view you use.

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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 12:39:10 PM »
I do think all attack/fighters should default to attack when ord is strapped on and default to fighter when there's none.

So why wouldn't the folks who game Attack mode just strap on some bombs and then dump them on the runway before rolling?  I'm not clear how your proposed solution solves anything.


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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2010, 12:48:45 PM »
I feel like your results may be invalid because as you fly the il2 you are also improving your familiarity with the il2 and bound to improve over the month despite the view you use.

I actually thought of that, sooooooo I will do F3 the 1st week. So my added 1 week experience will skew the results in favor of F1 view.

So if F3 shows better in all categories there will be only 1 reason for it!   :aok


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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2010, 12:51:48 PM »
I do think all attack/fighters should default to attack when ord is strapped on

yes :aok

... and default to fighter when there's none.

cant really do that, some planes are used (correctly) for strafing and may not have ords on board.
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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2010, 12:55:52 PM »
So why wouldn't the folks who game Attack mode just strap on some bombs and then dump them on the runway before rolling?  I'm not clear how your proposed solution solves anything.



It solves nothing. There should be 2 categories---> Fighter (if you're shootin down baddies) and Bomber (if you're droppin bombs for any reason from any aircraft)

This one change would shore up the shedding in both categories in my opinion, or just make Attack and Fighter modes reflect on each other!


I see folks with great fighter score that could never beat most of the folks I fight in the DA, it seems they work the vulch when it's time to "score-up" in fighter mode! <---that cheapens it in some way to me!

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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2010, 01:06:05 PM »
I see folks with great fighter score that could never beat most of the folks I fight in the DA, it seems they work the vulch when it's time to "score-up" in fighter mode! <---that cheapens it in some way to me!

not necessarily, its different skill sets. great SA is essential in MAs, not so in a DA 1v1. thats why some of the DA princesses whine about lack of 1v1s and getting picked in the MAs.
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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2010, 01:45:37 PM »
I see folks with great fighter score that could never beat most of the folks I fight in the DA, it seems they work the vulch when it's time to "score-up" in fighter mode! <---that cheapens it in some way to me!

Take Fighter score for what it is.  You'll never have a score that perfectly reflects your own view of what defines "good."  Almost any system rewards vulching or wingman tactics, and those who want to game their stats by switching between Fighter and Attack modes will always find a way around restrictions.  Your best bet is to just realize the flaws in the system and take any ranking with a grain of salt.

That said, I just looked at the top 20 ranked fighter pilots for this tour, and many of them strike me as excellent duelists.  
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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2010, 02:54:25 PM »
So why wouldn't the folks who game Attack mode just strap on some bombs and then dump them on the runway before rolling?  I'm not clear how your proposed solution solves anything.



It doesn't solve the "problem" of gaming the score by flying in attack mode but it does solve the problem of forgetting to change modes in the hanger before take-off.
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2010, 03:01:37 PM »
It doesn't solve the "problem" of gaming the score by flying in attack mode but it does solve the problem of forgetting to change modes in the hanger before take-off.

That's only a problem if you forget.  Don't forget, and it's not a problem.  :)


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Re: F3 Next tour
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2010, 03:19:03 PM »
Take Fighter score for what it is.  You'll never have a score that perfectly reflects your own view of what defines "good."  Almost any system rewards vulching or wingman tactics, and those who want to game their stats by switching between Fighter and Attack modes will always find a way around restrictions.  Your best bet is to just realize the flaws in the system and take any ranking with a grain of salt.

That said, I just looked at the top 20 ranked fighter pilots for this tour, and many of them strike me as excellent duelists.  
just curious but i heard you use to be the best ingame stick at 1 point  :)
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2010, 04:18:30 PM »
just curious but i heard you use to be the best ingame stick at 1 point  :)

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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2010, 05:50:13 PM »
Nah, he always flew a dweebfire, always came in with a full squad protecting him, and always run in the spitV if he got below 10K

This.  Always this.