LST ( landing ship,tank

[skorpion]

yet we are still historically accurate when it comes to how we use the planes and vehicles we have. putting a tiger on an LST is like putting hispanos on A6Ms

why does it matter if we are historically accurate? its just a game and the only time it matters is in the AvA

[BrownBaron]

hispanos on A6Ms

Perk the carrier-bourne tiger, and hizooka zeke!

[Wildcat1]

yeah but imagine panzers, tigers, t34s, panthers m4's fireflys and m3s all rolling off a few LSTs. it would completely kill the idea of gving from another base and it would make base taking alot easier than it already is.
And on another note you have to be crazy to drive 10 miles in an lvt...

[Melvin]

yet we are still historically accurate when it comes to how we use the planes and vehicles we have. putting a tiger on an LST is like putting hispanos on A6Ms

Well in that case, no more Japanese planes taking off from American carriers. (Or vice-versa.)

No more Lanc-stukas.

No more turn fighting 262's.

No more hordes consisting of mixed aircraft.

No more etc. etc. etc. (See where I'm going with this?)

+1 For the LVT (and towable arty please.)

[321BAR]

Well in that case, no more Japanese planes taking off from American carriers. (Or vice-versa.)

No more Lanc-stukas.

No more turn fighting 262's.

No more hordes consisting of mixed aircraft.

No more etc. etc. etc. (See where I'm going with this?)

+1 For the LVT (and towable arty please.)

hmm... lets think. turn fighting 262s... a 262 could turn the way it does in game. lanc stukas... they could do that in real life... You honestly think theyre gonna throw what you said as number one as anything valid? hordes of mixed aircraft in MAs ok...

No i dont see where youre going with this because there is a difference between historically accurate loadouts and weaponry and historically accurate gameplay. Never get the two mixed

What you are doing melvin is being sarcastic to try and make an invalid point to an argument that has no merit. Please hang up and try again later...


LSTs did not carry german armor therefore why in the world would it be in there for the loadout?

[321BAR]

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im patient sometimes how bout you?

[Melvin]

hmm... lets think. turn fighting 262s... a 262 could turn the way it does in game. lanc stukas... they could do that in real life... You honestly think theyre gonna throw what you said as number one as anything valid? hordes of mixed aircraft in MAs ok...

No i dont see where youre going with this because there is a difference between historically accurate loadouts and weaponry and historically accurate gameplay. Never get the two mixed

What you are doing melvin is being sarcastic to try and make an invalid point to an argument that has no merit. Please hang up and try again later...


LSTs did not carry german armor therefore why in the world would it be in there for the loadout?

Zeros did not fly off American carriers into battle. Therefore why would it happen in AH?

[321BAR]

Zeros did not fly off American carriers into battle. Therefore why would it happen in AH?

Because it is the only carrier we have and there are many more necessary things needed to be added other than a whole new fleet system. Because if you want that road. give us Jap Destroyers, cruisers, etc also. Which would take alot of time to model all of this correctly... HTC also wants subs and FPS style combat too added in. you expect that anytime soon without revamping a few things?

[Melvin]

I would love to see all those things implemented. I'm aware that there is a lot involved and that if it happens, it won't be for a long time.

This is the "wishlist" forum, and the "wish" was for LST's. I'm all for these too.

My argument was that the current state of carrier ops isn't exactly historically accurate, therefore it is a moot point to call out the accuracy of putting a German tank on an American landing craft. (Actually, it's ALL moot as we don't have said craft.)

If everything that you suggested as far as different fleets for different countries was implemented, then I could see the validity of the "no Tiger" argument. I'd still +1 the LST, due to the fact that American iron could get the job done just as easily. This begs a whole new question.

Did the Axis forces have a similar piece of equipment?

[321BAR]

My argument was that the current state of carrier ops isn't exactly historically accurate, therefore it is a moot point to call out the accuracy of putting a German tank on an American landing craft. (Actually, it's ALL moot as we don't have said craft.)

If everything that you suggested as far as different fleets for different countries was implemented, then I could see the validity of the "no Tiger" argument. I'd still +1 the LST, due to the fact that American iron could get the job done just as easily. This begs a whole new question.

Did the Axis forces have a similar piece of equipment?

You still do not see the point. we have historically accurate loadouts and HTC WILL NOT DEFER FROM THIS. LSTs didnt carry german armor in WWII therefore we would not either. Its historically accurate loadout would be M4A3s and possibly light M8s M16s etc.

[Melvin]

You still do not see the point. we have historically accurate loadouts and HTC WILL NOT DEFER FROM THIS. LSTs didnt carry german armor in WWII therefore we would not either. Its historically accurate loadout would be M4A3s and possibly light M8s M16s etc.

I think my argument is going right over your head BAR.

Could someone please help him out with this?

[skorpion]

I think my argument is going right over your head BAR.

Could someone please help him out with this?

i will help-BAR the argument going on here is about the LST itself, prefferably just having one added and not the loadouts.
Does that help?

[Melvin]

i will help-BAR the argument going on here is about the LST itself, prefferably just having one added and not the loadouts.
Does that help?

 

[skorpion]

my pleasure melvin

[M0nkey_Man]

Both Bar and Melvin have good arguments,except,ya'll are actually talking about two different things.Melvin is talking about the planes themselves and how they are used.What Bar is talking about is what those planes carry.What Bar is trying to say is HTC doesnt have multi-country armaments for planes,and he wants the tanks to be a  load out option for the LST.  Thats why he used the example of putting Hispanos on Zeros.Thats why he doesnt want a Tiger on the LST,but if you find a German LST I will say have at it and get your one an army landing craft lol.