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Offline hyster

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 09:41:07 AM »
if u perk the 51 then the mossie needs to be perked.
with decent throttle and rudder control the mossie can dog fight a 51 with ease.
ive had many a 51 run away from a fight in my mossie (the ones that lived).

ill take a mossie to a furball over a 51 anyday.

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 10:02:48 AM »
Personally, I think any plane ENY 10 or less needs to have a 1-5 perk cost.  Just like HTC has done with the T-34/85 and the M4/76.
 

The OP fails to give a logical reason why he'd like it perked.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 10:10:13 AM »
How about no?
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 10:37:47 AM »
If HTC give me a P-51D that can fly like the ones I saw on the History Channel series Dog Fight then I say go a head and perk it. Other wise let it alone.

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2010, 11:10:12 AM »
51 REALLY isnt that remarkable an aircraft in here, and it's not the fastest, I don't believe. I'd imagine it gets more porker sorties than anything else
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 12:49:14 PM »
if u perk the 51 then the mossie needs to be perked.
with decent throttle and rudder control the mossie can dog fight a 51 with ease.
ive had many a 51 run away from a fight in my mossie (the ones that lived).

ill take a mossie to a furball over a 51 anyday.

Then you have not fought against just an average P51D pilot then.   ;)  The P51D is faster, turns better (w/ flaps), accelerates better, climbs better, dives, better, rolls better, and recovers from stalls much easier.  The only things the Mossi Mk IV has on the P51D are better guns and more ordnance capability (4/500lb > 2/1k bombs).

The Mossi is not a dog fighter, for air to air it needs to stay fast as speed and firepower are its only blessings.  The P51D can at least pop flaps at high speeds and turn.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 04:06:53 PM »
wow the pony....perked, thats the last thing we need. Most of the planes that are perked from their weapons or speed. Pony has no cannons and plenty of things can keep up with it.

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 04:25:57 PM »
The Mossi is not a dog fighter, for air to air it needs to stay fast as speed and firepower are its only blessings.  The P51D can at least pop flaps at high speeds and turn.

erm wrong.
you can stall fight the mossie.
mossie is a dog fighter IF you know how to fight it. i do ( or at least i did. ive not played for a few mnths). 51 is easy meat unless u now the 51 well.
the only plane i fear in a mossie is a 38 and thats mainly due to i always get caught out by the top sticks in it.

i flew the mossie as my main ride for around a year for EVERY type of combat from low alt base defense against cv to high alt bombers / fighters.

"few" people have taken the time to learn the mossie so it has a bad reputation. it is a difficult plane to fight well but you can do it with practice.

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 05:50:44 PM »
 Imho there are only a very small # that need perking now...since we have 109Ks, P-51s, Doras ect all non perked, there is little to no reason to have many perked any more. Me 262 I guess? and one or two others. Thats it. 

Perking P-51. Will never happen simply because of the great # of players who want them in game in unlimited quantity. Will never happen.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 05:59:40 PM »
The F4U-4, F4U-1C, Tempest Mk V, Me262, Me163, Ar234, Mosquito Mk XVI, Firefly VC, Panther V G, Tiger I and, future, B-29 should all remain perked.  The Spitfire Mk XIV, Sherman (76), T-34/85 and, future, A-26 are more marginal.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 06:09:28 PM »
The F4U-4, F4U-1C, Tempest Mk V, Me262, Me163, Ar234, Mosquito Mk XVI, Firefly VC, Panther V G, Tiger I and, future, B-29 should all remain perked.  The Spitfire Mk XIV, Sherman (76), T-34/85 and, future, A-26 are more marginal.

half the planes youve stated are perked, soo.... :huh

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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 06:22:57 PM »
half the planes youve stated are perked, soo.... :huh
All the units I mentioned are perked.  I was stating the ones I think are solidly needing to be perked, vs the ones that might not need to be perked.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 06:41:49 PM »
It is a very capable plane I agree.

Should we perk a plane that was produced in such large numbers? 
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 07:00:13 PM »
Should we perk a plane that was produced in such large numbers? 
Numbers don't play any role in determining if a unit is perked or not.  That said, it shouldn't be perked.
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Re: Make the P51D a perked aircraft
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2011, 12:46:01 AM »
No way does the P-51 need to be perked. Its climb rate will always keep it from being a great dogfighter against anyone that knows what hes doing and is in the right plane. And IMO anyone that wants to run at 18K for 5 sectors just to get a kill or two will never be a threat and neither will the mount that takes them there.

-1 on perking the P-51, and I think they should move the ENY back up to 8 or maybe even 10.  :aok

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