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Re: the P51s
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 04:31:04 PM »
ok thanks karnak, but even though it may be the most common doesnt mean the eny has to be low.

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 04:35:11 PM »
According to last years "pie charts" the 51D was #1 at almost 8% while the Spit16 was #2 at almost 7%

We'll have to wait and see about this years numbers...... Snailman?

The ENY of a plane is figured out by HTC. They have some magical formula that they use to set the numbers. It has to do with many factors, some of which I'm sure us "common people" haven't even thought about.
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 04:37:24 PM »
It was 8 ENY, but it's heavy usage resulted in the current 5 ENY rating.  If the Jugs are the same, then why not fly the Jugs to get the extra perks you desire.  You did say they are the same, right?  Obviously you haven't flown one.
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 04:41:45 PM »
ok thanks karnak, but even though it may be the most common doesnt mean the eny has to be low.
Generally, it does.  There are reasons the P-51D and Spitfire Mk XVI are so common compared to other aircraft, even though the P-51B and Spitfire Mk VIII are almost as good as their more popular brethren.
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2010, 04:43:03 PM »
actually i have flown 1  plenty of times killed those spitdweebs in em alot. sure they seem easy to kill, but alot of people judge that book by its cover. Im still confused on why they changed the eny lower just because its was the most common plane flown last year. Still waiting on an aswer from lusche too.

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 04:47:09 PM »
actually i have flown 1  plenty of times killed those spitdweebs in em alot. sure they seem easy to kill, but alot of people judge that book by its cover. Im still confused on why they changed the eny lower just because its was the most common plane flown last year. Still waiting on an aswer from lusche too.
Usage is one of the factors that governs ENY values, thus, high usage will lower an aircraft's ENY.
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 04:47:40 PM »
The D is a better plane fo all the reasons outlined by better pilots then myself.  And its popularity along with the spits populaity, is evidence of the most common nationalities.  

Americans love their mustangs - and they should be proud of it.  Brits are proud of their spits, and they should be proud of it, and so on.  The are some of us that have other preferences because our mothers dropped us when we were kids.

as for eny - who cares really. . . never eally cared much about perks.


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Re: the P51s
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 04:47:47 PM »
it performs better at higher altitudes

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 04:53:12 PM »
ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 05:12:11 PM »
ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.
Depends on how much less it is used, doesn't it.  The Spitfire Mk XVI is used less than the P-51D, yet it has an ENY of 5.  The N1K2-J and La-7 are both used much less than the P-51D and Spitfire Mk XVI and they also have ENYs of 5.
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 05:39:04 PM »
ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.

Your questions have been answered several times and your lazyness in searching the information you lack so much is becoming obvious. I find apalling your rudeness and bad attitude demonstrated in your lines. You are beeing offensive and arrogant with your fellow players.

Amidst all the ignorance, misconceptions and prejudice stated, space should be reserved for some much needed instruction.

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 08:04:15 PM »
Comparison of the two...


P51D:
faster at lower alts.
6 guns (makes a huge difference to people who cant shoot well)
bubble canopy
HVARs and 1k lbers

P51B
tighter turning
more stable
faster at high alts
4 guns with less ammo than the 4 gun P51D
annoying older rockets and 500 lbers max.

In my opinion the P51D is 5 due to the 6 guns, more ammo, better ord package, and the availability of speed below 15k feet. The eny on the P51B is 20 due to the ord, 4 guns, less ammo, and like said, the 51B cannot out run a D below 15K although many pilots do not realize that the B can out turn them etc.

Both have advantages and both can be flown very deadly
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Re: the P51s
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 10:29:18 PM »
Comparison of the two...


P51D:
faster at lower alts.
6 guns (makes a huge difference to people who cant shoot well)
bubble canopy
HVARs and 1k lbers

P51B
tighter turning
more stable
faster at high alts
4 guns with less ammo than the 4 gun P51D
annoying older rockets and 500 lbers max.

In my opinion the P51D is 5 due to the 6 guns, more ammo, better ord package, and the availability of speed below 15k feet. The eny on the P51B is 20 due to the ord, 4 guns, less ammo, and like said, the 51B cannot out run a D below 15K although many pilots do not realize that the B can out turn them etc.

Both have advantages and both can be flown very deadly

what type of canopy does the B model have? i actually prefer the B model cocpit than the D's, it just seems to give better vis.

i REEAAALLLLYYY wish we had a merlin powered b51b  :pray

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 10:39:01 PM »
i REEAAALLLLYYY wish we had a merlin powered b51b  :pray

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Re: the P51s
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2010, 10:40:32 PM »
what type of canopy does the B model have? i actually prefer the B model cocpit than the D's, it just seems to give better vis.
Malcolm Hood, which I have heard at least some wartime pilots preferred to the bubble canopy of the P-51D, saying they had better visibility out of it.

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Wish granted.  All P-51Bs, Cs, Ds, Ks and Hs had Merlin engines, which means the P-51B in AH is modeled with a Merlin engine.
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