b24D please.

[Tyrannis]

He wants one single special skin for it.

troll much?

[Tyrannis]

it's a slightly faster aircraft, but basically has no ball/nose guns.  nose gun was hard to aim that's why they had 3 mg and they would interfere with the bombardier (i think) and the ventral guns were basically useless.  earlier models had mostly .303 mg's.  there's was lots of modifications to the b24d mostly in the defensive package.

the b24j that we have in the game is just a slower model due to weight added due to a heavier defensive package, along with better navigation, autopilot, turbocharger. in other words in terms of ah it will be the same plane except little faster but hard to shoot with nose & ventral gun.

of course everything is subject to akak corrections

semp

i wouldnt mind getting rid of the ball turret and having "crappy" nose guns, in most my engagements in aceshigh, i rarely ever have to use the front guns or ball turret. is there a percentage anywheres about what guns are used most on bombers?

[E25280]

i wouldnt mind getting rid of the ball turret and having "crappy" nose guns, in most my engagements in aceshigh, i rarely ever have to use the front guns or ball turret. is there a percentage anywheres about what guns are used most on bombers?

Never use the ball turret? Who are you, FORTRESS?

[Tyrannis]

Never use the ball turret? Who are you, FORTRESS?

most my engagements involve the tail/side guns/top turret.

[EskimoJoe]

troll much?

LOL. Ignorant much?
Oh, wait, you ARE!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,303571.0.html

[Tyrannis]

LOL. Ignorant much?
Oh, wait, you ARE!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,303571.0.html

i asked for a skin that turned out to be  also a D, doesnt mean thats my main reason for wanting the D model.

ive allready stated more than 1 reason why i'd like to see it added.
sooooo....
read much?

[dirt911]

+1 To the 24D, add the 17F into that and an extra +1 and even if we do get it the skin will most likeley be added as well.

[EskimoJoe]

i asked for a skin that turned out to be  also a D, doesnt mean thats my main reason for wanting the D model.

ive allready stated more than 1 reason why i'd like to see it added.
sooooo....
read much?

You cease to amaze me!
 

[Mirage]

And here I was thinking you would quip back with
"amaze me much!"
 

[Guppy35]

it's a slightly faster aircraft, but basically has no ball/nose guns.  nose gun was hard to aim that's why they had 3 mg and they would interfere with the bombardier (i think) and the ventral guns were basically useless.  earlier models had mostly .303 mg's.  there's was lots of modifications to the b24d mostly in the defensive package.

the b24j that we have in the game is just a slower model due to weight added due to a heavier defensive package, along with better navigation, autopilot, turbocharger. in other words in terms of ah it will be the same plane except little faster but hard to shoot with nose & ventral gun.

of course everything is subject to akak corrections

semp

24D had the ball turret.    While it would be nice for those running Ploesti, it's far less important then the 17F for example as in the PTO they modded many of their D models with nose turrets, and in the ETO they were replaced fairly fast by the turret nosed 24s.

Hopefully someday, but down the list in terms of AH which could use some other birds first in my opinion.

[Ack-Ack]

He wants one single special skin for it.

I'm guessing it's the skin with the polka dots.  I wonder if it would be allowed since that plane in the picture (First Sargeant, B-24D-30-CO) wasn't used in combat, it was an assembly plane used to help assemble individual group formations and would return to base as soon as the regular B-24s formed up after take off.  They didn't drop bombs, had all of their guns removed (some did retain the tail gun position so a flight officer could observe the formation) along with armor.  These were war weary planes, no longer suitable for combat which is why they were used as assembly ships instead.

ack-ack

[guncrasher]

24D had the ball turret.    While it would be nice for those running Ploesti, it's far less important then the 17F for example as in the PTO they modded many of their D models with nose turrets, and in the ETO they were replaced fairly fast by the turret nosed 24s.

Hopefully someday, but down the list in terms of AH which could use some other birds first in my opinion.

ball turret didnt work in the 24d properly. and the ventral gun was aimed using mirrors, I believe.  I looked at several different sites.  they all mention the nose guns as interfering with the bombardier and the ball turret/ventral guns as being useless.  there were many, many variations of the b24d, mostly to try to fix the nose/bombardier/ventral gun issues.  they never got fixed until 4 two-gun turrets were installed in the b24j.

If you really want the b24d, just pretend the nose/ball turret dont work in the b24j and that will be close to the b24d.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_B-24D.html


semp

[Tyrannis]

I'm guessing it's the skin with the polka dots.  I wonder if it would be allowed since that plane in the picture (First Sargeant, B-24D-30-CO) wasn't used in combat, it was a sweetie embly plane used to help assemble individual group formations and would return to base as soon as the regular B-24s formed up after take off.  They didn't drop bombs, had all of their guns removed (some did retain the tail gun position so a flight officer could observe the formation) along with armor.  These were war weary planes, no longer suitable for combat which is why they were used as assembly ships instead.

ack-ack

no ack-ack. couple days ago i posted a request for the b24 skin "lady be good", not knowing that bomber was a D model. it got me thinking tho what the difference between the D and our curret model b24 was, i did some research and from what i could tell, the b24D would be really cool to have, with alot of fun senarios in both the ETO and PTO. plus i think its the better looking of b24s.


but eskimo wants to troll me by saying i only want the bomber for the "lady be good" skin.

[SectorNine50]

I can't +1 this because there isn't enough of a difference to warrant another model.  There are so many other gaps in the list that it just wouldn't make sense.

[Guppy35]

ball turret didnt work in the 24d properly. and the ventral gun was aimed using mirrors, I believe.  I looked at several different sites.  they all mention the nose guns as interfering with the bombardier and the ball turret/ventral guns as being useless.  there were many, many variations of the b24d, mostly to try to fix the nose/bombardier/ventral gun issues.  they never got fixed until 4 two-gun turrets were installed in the b24j.

If you really want the b24d, just pretend the nose/ball turret dont work in the b24j and that will be close to the b24d.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_B-24D.html


semp

Got lots of stuff here on the 24 semp

Go back and re-read the site you posted.  It mentions when the Ball turret was added.  The B17E had the same remote turret and it to was replaced early in production.  The B24D got the ball turret very early in production as well.

As for the guys asking about the colorful paint jobs.  Those were formation assembly ships and not combat birds.  They'd been retired.  It's already been discussed with HTC in the skinning forum and not an option since they are not combat birds.

Tyrannis, there would not be a lot of fun scenarios for the PTO and ETO as the turret nosed 24s were the main birds.  The glass nose D model is best known for Ploesti but the turret nosed 24s did the majority of the dirty work