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Offline JunkyII

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 09:59:29 AM »
Fights in fast moving Jets would be alot more fun/challenging then those slow POS WWI birds......They exxagerrate most of the things people hate in the MA because they can spin around on a dime IE HOs, Rams
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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 12:15:12 AM »
first 2 years were spent in 8 player, then had to play offline for a yr and a half due to a computer crash.didnt sign back up for online till late 2008.

you most likely didnt see me around because i mostly flew in early/mid war. late war with its players that use sticks/peddles/etc can be deathtraps for simple mouse/keyboard flyers  :uhoh


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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 12:32:50 AM »
does anyone else wish that they had a me262,ar234,and 163 section in the dueling arena? would be fun to have whenever you got that "jet vs jet" itch.

and also put an altitude cap over that section of the arena, so noone can fly the jets out to the other furball arena.




Yes I do.  We used to have that back before the DA got turned into the steaming bowl of crap it is today.  I miss doing canyon races in 163's.
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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 11:22:18 AM »
It would look like the WWI arena after the novelty wore off.

I doubt it.  If HTC did it right they could create a mini war with bombers, tanks, and jets.  It could be a very fun arena.  That's how AW3 Korea was.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 11:23:28 AM »
Fights in fast moving Jets would be alot more fun/challenging then those slow POS WWI birds......They exxagerrate most of the things people hate in the MA because they can spin around on a dime IE HOs, Rams

Agreed, even if it was just a 'jet furball arena' it would still be a lot more exhilarating than flying 90mph lawn mowers.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 09:10:09 AM »
Fights in fast moving Jets would be alot more fun/challenging then those slow POS WWI birds......They exxagerrate most of the things people hate in the MA because they can spin around on a dime IE HOs, Rams

....erm, JunkyII I think the dynamics of air combat (between similar a/c) is a kind of constant, regardless of speed or turn rate. Granted the slower ragwings get you up close and personal which increases the chance of collision, but the basic dynamics and skillset required are similar. As for HO's I don't recall being hit hard that way for months now.

Agreed, even if it was just a 'jet furball arena' it would still be a lot more exhilarating than flying 90mph lawn mowers.

Now that's a paddlin' lol. If you need to go fast to get your kicks I can respect that. Personally I can't think of anything more 'exhilarating' than combat in a WW1 a/c. I recently watched a documentary where two highly rated jet jockeys got to do just that ('Fighting the Red Baron' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3ELkQSvZE&feature=related) and I don't recall them looking bored  :rofl
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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 10:59:48 AM »
What would jets do to ah ?

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 11:11:09 AM »
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AVA ran a 'Jet Week' a few weeks ago on a Korean map by US Ranger.  It was lots of fun.  It will probably be run again in the future.  We had free 262's and AR234's and the map is nothing short of AWESOME.

As for Korea................ 

WWII was the last true dogfighting era.  For that one reason, AH will always be WWII.  Guns, and props, and human thought are all WWII.  Once we switched to jet engines and missiles we suddenly removed so many aspects of what makes a good pilot.  There will never be another aerial combat era quite like WWII.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 11:41:04 AM »
Umm there was dogfighting in Korea , Vietnam and any air combat since. Sure it has changed and dont forget there was sill .50 cal on USA jets and 20mm cannon on migs( and several prop planes in Korea) In Vietnam we didn't have "guns" just rockets in the phantom and every pilot Ive seen said they wanted guns for the dogfights.

Different tech for sure, different tactics absolutely, but for sure there was dogfighting.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 11:08:10 PM »
I for one would probably go exclusively Korean if we had it. I want so badly to be able to fly the A-1 skyraider... it just missied WW2 (first flight march 1945, introduced 1946) but was the backbone of the Korean War. Though if we did get Vietnam, we could have the A-1H which was the heaviest version and would could have heli's!

either way +1
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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2011, 02:34:13 AM »
Just curious what everyone thinks and if they think we will ever have the jet age maps.

  We may have 'em, but it'll be like the WWI arena. The jet guys won't like having to deal with other jets all the time
so they'll go back to bashin' baby seal prop jobs with 262s in the Late War Arena. :)

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2011, 02:40:23 AM »
I for one would probably go exclusively Korean if we had it. I want so badly to be able to fly the A-1 skyraider... it just missied WW2 (first flight march 1945, introduced 1946) but was the backbone of the Korean War. Though if we did get Vietnam, we could have the A-1H which was the heaviest version and would could have heli's!

either way +1
didnt 2 a1-skyraiders get the first kill of korea by tag-teaming a mig15? think i saw that on dogfights.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2011, 09:35:47 AM »
Without a full spectrum of tactical mission possibilities and strategic goals, with a VARIETY of rides to play in, yes.....any Korea Dogfight arena consisting of a Mig15vrsF86 plane set would simply be a novelty.  98% of the player base would play there for two weeks then get bored and go back to the far more dynamic LW arena.

This is the lesson WW1 has taught us:  One, maybe two planes with a pure goal of nothing but dog fighting, no matter how well done, will become boring to the majority of players after several weeks or a month.

I hope HTC puts more effort into developing WW1 into something more engaging over the long term.  the SE5a and Albatross, SPAD, Nieuport 17 just to name a few, with some large bombers and other strat elements would go a LONG ways towards making WW1 a FAR more viable arena then it is now.
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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2011, 09:44:59 PM »
jets suck - End of discussion.

If I wanna go fly around in a jet I'll go find some r-tard console game.
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and I SURE as hell wouldn't have downloaded a WWII flight simulator.

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Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: What would jets do to ah ?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2011, 07:22:31 AM »
Most Korean and All Vietnam combat started beyond visual range. That means you can't see who or what your shooting at, its a blip on a scope.

Really don't think it will work all that well, or HTC would have already done it.