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Offline Drano

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Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« on: January 08, 2011, 12:45:29 AM »
Seemed every time I engaged with a guy that went under say a few hundred feet his icon toggled off even tho I might be less than 1K behind him. Was seeing this over and over as were my squaddies. Was it part of the setup? Wasn't like it was a down in the trees thing. The icon toggled well above that level. Became very hard to track a target against the ground.

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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 01:24:09 AM »
Yes.
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 02:13:32 AM »
To cut down on all the eloquent B.S. in Ernest "Spikes" Hemingway's post.....yes. It is a feature. Not a malfunction.  ;)
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 10:21:38 AM »
It's been that way for a while.


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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 10:59:53 AM »
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I am lost gents. We don't have any default icon setting for FSO that they disappear at a couple hundred feet. We can do that, but it is not a default setting by any means. I 'think' I have been the only one to make some changes to icon settings. It has been the standard 3k for a while now. Anyone have a short film clip they could send me?
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 11:02:42 AM »
Here is a post from Ghostdancer addressing the icon issue last month in another thread.

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Adventure in the Dodecenes   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
IN HARMS WAY: Ryukyu Islands October 1945   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Sicilian Stranglehold   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Should Have Been a Milkrun   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k (icons off below 200')
A Mindanao Sunset   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Targets of Opportunity   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 1k (icons off below 500')
Angels Eight   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Rangoon Sunrise   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Breaking Gustave 1944   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Operation Marita   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
ARMAGEDDON: Japan Summer 1945   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
Operation Panzerfaust   =   Icons friendly 3k/enemy 3k
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2011, 11:40:59 AM »
Maybe just a mistake in the setup? Here is the intended setup from this frame:

"- Icon Range – Friendly 3k, Enemy 3k."

@ Daddog, I noticed it too when following a 109 on the deck. If you still need a clip, I am sure I can send you one.

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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 12:44:32 PM »
I concur...  we noticed the same thing.  Under about 500' the icon would go away.  While it may not have been the intent of the setup, it was certainly in effect.

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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2011, 01:29:39 PM »
I had to do a double take when I saw the no Icons...my first thought was the enemy con became a lawn dart.....all and all I like the no icon...especially for an escaping IL2 on the deck.

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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2011, 02:02:41 PM »
It may have been a setup error. I have certainly had my share of those.   :uhoh
Shoot me a film clip gents if you don't mind and I will double check with the Setup CM's.

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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2011, 02:05:19 PM »
The icons do disappear.
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2011, 02:07:41 PM »
?
Do as in they did last night Spikes? Or do on a regular basis?
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 02:08:51 PM »
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Do as in they did last night Spikes? Or do on a regular basis?
Yes last night for sure. Rhah and I were engaged in LA's in our jets that kept disappearing as they ducked under 500.
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 02:21:45 PM »
Fighting over A5 city on the deck...yes the icons disappeared.  But I loved it!  Plane shapes were apparent!

If ya need flash cards to tell you that is a Yak , a 109, or an La...ya need pwactice  ;)

I find the icons off on the deck spectacular and a nice touch!
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Re: Low Alt--Icons disappearing?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 02:31:46 PM »
That change was what got some of us killed.  We all were under the impression that everything within 3K was an icon.  I had guys I pinged within 400 to 800 that the icon disappeared.  I switched targets only to discover I was being chased down by planes that icons would reappear. 

Usually, when the icon disappears within the 3K range, that plane is down.  Under that assumption, I would disengage and switch targets taking my awareness off of those planes in which the icons disappeared thinking they are no longer a threat.  In doing so,I got keeled...

My lesson here is never assume and follow them into the ground or keep shooting...

But I do believe that based on the objectives, the icon thingee may have been set up incorrectly for frame 1.  Not a big deal to me but I will pay more attention when engaged in frame 2.

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