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Offline grizz441

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2011, 07:21:04 PM »
Volunteer army is a fantastic idea and system when you have enough volunteers... :noid

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2011, 08:26:33 PM »
So what you're saying is, that since there aren't enough volunteers, we should use conscripts?  Not a bad idea in  a conventional war, but in a fight that's half PR, having Privates Beavis and Butthead blasting poor Haddib and his family doesn't make a good impression on our primary source of intelligence.

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No, not at all.  I was advocating an all-volunteer army.

So you are volunteering?
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2011, 01:10:33 AM »
So what you're saying is, that since there aren't enough volunteers, we should use conscripts?  Not a bad idea in  a conventional war, but in a fight that's half PR, having Privates Beavis and Butthead blasting poor Haddib and his family doesn't make a good impression on our primary source of intelligence.

This example is a poor one at best.  I agree the military should stay an all volunteer force but not because of PVTs Beavis and Butthead.  It is rather comforting to know the guys and gals on my left and right are there because they chose to be. 
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2011, 11:24:34 AM »
So you are volunteering?

Heck no!  That was my entire point!  :rofl

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2011, 11:25:31 AM »
This example is a poor one at best.  I agree the military should stay an all volunteer force but not because of PVTs Beavis and Butthead.  It is rather comforting to know the guys and gals on my left and right are there because they chose to be. 

There's a great example, also, knowing that they won't crack under pressure is great too.

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2011, 12:50:00 PM »
Who said that just because they volunteered that they won't crack? :rolleyes:
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2011, 12:54:48 PM »
Who said that just because they volunteered that they won't crack? :rolleyes:

Penguin did.  He knows everything so I would not question it.

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2011, 03:29:38 PM »
You have a point about that, but they'd be less likely to crack, since nobody forced them to join.

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2011, 05:09:11 PM »
You have a point about that, but they'd be less likely to crack, since nobody forced them to join.

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And because they're volunteers they already have experience in combat and know what it's all about?

LOL who you kidding?
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2011, 06:58:09 PM »
And because they're volunteers they already have experience in combat and know what it's all about?

LOL who you kidding?
Yup.As I can gather, most of our guys in WW2 were draftees, thus, most of the bravest. Found a site that goes into the process somewhat
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-422306.html

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Not exactly what the OP asks for, but here are some interesring stats.:
Total number of inductees for WWII (1940-1946)
including draftees before Pearl Harbor
10,110,114

By Year:
1940 - 18,633
1941 - 923,842
1942 - 3,033,361
1943 - 3,323,970
1944 - 1,591,942
1945 - 945,862
1946 - 183,383

From here:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~miisabel/militaryWWII.htm


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A relative volunteered for the service in WWII. He was told he didn't score high enough on the tests to join the Navy (which he wanted.) So they sent him to the Army.

The Army assigned him to the Army Air Corp which made him a pilot.
He piloted B-17 in the Eighth Air Force.>
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2011, 07:17:14 PM »
And because they're volunteers they already have experience in combat and know what it's all about?

LOL who you kidding?

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2011, 09:35:23 PM »
And because they're volunteers they already have experience in combat and know what it's all about?

LOL who you kidding?

No, I was referring to the shock of seeing one's whole life fall apart (being drafted into say, a rifle company) exacerbating whatever further psychological trauma one suffers during a tour of duty.

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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2011, 11:37:13 PM »
No, I was referring to the shock of seeing one's whole life fall apart (being drafted into say, a rifle company) exacerbating whatever further psychological trauma one suffers during a tour of duty.

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I'm guessing you don't think through what you are going to say first. 
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2011, 11:52:03 PM »
it's swept to the side because we're too worried about the latest celeb gossip or who we can blame from the left or the right.
Or as you seemed to be saying earlier in this post, because most people don't have the stomach for it.  Also why celeb gossip and political blame game are so popular in the first place.
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Re: Photo of a US Marine in Afghanistan
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2011, 11:59:14 PM »
Bout time you showed up!
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