ME163 v B17 problems

[Drewster327]

Today I was flying a ME 163 came up to a B-17 shot about 30 rounds point blank all over wings and fueslage and didn't do any damage but the bomber was able to shoot a short burst and kill me. Talking to other players, other's have had the same issues killing bombers with 163s. Possibly glitch? Anyway to look into this?

[AAJagerX]

The "Bug Reports" forum would be a good starting point.  Be sure to include a film.   

[Lusche]

shot about 30 rounds point blank all over wings and fueslage and didn't do any damage but the bomber was able to shoot a short burst and kill me.

I think this is the key: "all over wings & fuselage".

A B-17 is a tough aircraft. A single 30mm usually doesn't do fatal structural damage when hitting fuselage or wings (though it can wreck single components, like a flap or rupture a fuel tank). And when 30 rounds are "all over", it's not far fetched to assume that a considerable number of them didn't hit anything at all. Unless you hit the cockpit, you need to concentrate your fire with the Mk 108 just like with any other gun - it just takes far less rounds to reach a critical damage level.
The 163 on the other hand is a small and fast target, but not very durable when being hit by a barrage of .50 cal rounds:


(The 163 in the picture got several hits on my bomber, but they had been "all over" too - you can see one of my flaps floating away. I lost the other too, and IIRC one gunner position. Had all those hits been in the same area, I would had lost my bomber.

[Dace]

Good post Lusche

[BiPoLaR]

I think this is the key: "all over wings & fuselage".

A B-17 is a tough aircraft. A single 30mm usually doesn't do fatal structural damage when hitting fuselage or wings (though it can wreck single components, like a flap or rupture a fuel tank). And when 30 rounds are "all over", it's not far fetched to assume that a considerable number of them didn't hit anything at all. Unless you hit the cockpit, you need to concentrate your fire with the Mk 108 just like with any other gun - it just takes far less rounds to reach a critical damage level.
The 163 on the other hand is a small and fast target, but not very durable when being hit by a barrage of .50 cal rounds:

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(The 163 in the picture got several hits on my bomber, but they had been "all over" too - you can see one of my flaps floating away. I lost the other too, and IIRC one gunner position. Had all those hits been in the same area, I would had lost my bomber.

Lesson here kids. Stop spraying and praying 

[cattb]

Hit the wingroot on the 17s and start them on fire.

[lyric1]

I think this is the key: "all over wings & fuselage".

A B-17 is a tough aircraft. A single 30mm usually doesn't do fatal structural damage when hitting fuselage or wings (though it can wreck single components, like a flap or rupture a fuel tank). And when 30 rounds are "all over", it's not far fetched to assume that a considerable number of them didn't hit anything at all. Unless you hit the cockpit, you need to concentrate your fire with the Mk 108 just like with any other gun - it just takes far less rounds to reach a critical damage level.
The 163 on the other hand is a small and fast target, but not very durable when being hit by a barrage of .50 cal rounds:

Real life damage on a wing of  B-17 one 30mm round from a 262 did this.

[Muzzy]

Real life damage on a wing of  B-17 one 30mm round from a 262 did this.

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And it looks like the pilot landed the plane, am I right?

[lyric1]

And it looks like the pilot landed the plane, am I right?

You know you are.

[Tyrannis]

Real life damage on a wing of  B-17 one 30mm round from a 262 did this.

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the pilot must of shat bricks when he landed and saw that gaping hole in his wing.

[LLogann]

What was your attack vector?  At what distance did you open fire?  Film?

B17's are tough as nails.  No glitch, you're just doing it a little off.  Stop spraying and concentrate on hitting one spot.  "But then I'll eat .50 cals"  ANSWER- Get faster!

Today I was flying a ME 163 came up to a B-17 shot about 30 rounds point blank all over wings and fueslage and didn't do any damage but the bomber was able to shoot a short burst and kill me. Talking to other players, other's have had the same issues killing bombers with 163s. Possibly glitch? Anyway to look into this?

[Muzzy]

See this thread on how to kill buffs:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,304319.0.html

The strategy applies no matter what bird you fly.

[MarineUS]

imagine how i felt in a 163 that made a pass, took out a Ki67, made a second pass on a badly damaged one, only to have the right wing of my aircraft blown off.....

[Tails]

imagine how i felt in a 163 that made a pass, took out a Ki67, made a second pass on a badly damaged one, only to have the right wing of my aircraft blown off.....

Forgot about that dorsal spud gun, didn't you?

[Dichotomy]

I giggle every time I see that pic Snailman