Like I said, at the right angle it's extremely hard to hit fighters with the fast closure rate. Also, nose turrets aren't able to track fighters making a pass at a high 12:00 pass, only allowing an intact formation to get 6 guns on target for a short amount of time. I wouldn't use what pilots in the DA do as evidence. There really isn't enough room in the DA to set up a frontal pass, make the attack, and then reset. A co-alt frontal pass is another story. Quite easy to gun down attackers in that situation, however.