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New R/C Air plane Idea
« on: January 16, 2011, 07:38:39 PM »
I Know I posted on here before when i got the Hellcat. I logged some time in it and didn't work out to well. I moved on the the Firebird Phantom, and was able to keep in in the air until the battery died and come in for an easy landing. I then moved onto the Aerobird3 which was like the Phantom but was a 3 channel instead of a 2 channel. Ended up buying 2 cause one of them crashed doing aerobatics.(Had if for about 4 months before the final crash, tried a loop to low and didn't have enough room to do it) Second one flew great for almost 6 months until the wing snapped in half in mid flight on a windy day. I heard later customer reports that the wing breaking in flight was very common after a good amount of air time. Later I attempted a repair at the hellcat and it worked somewhat, wing was a bloody mess and no amount of toothpicks epoxy and duct tape would work.

Anyway I'm good and think fast so it should allow me to respond to faster control movements but wanted your opinion on this new plane idea. http://www.nitroplanes.com/81a66y-q-1-camodesert.html I have the motor, the speed controller and 2 reliable servo's and 2 others i'm not so sure about. As soon as i get enough money I might consider buying this plane. Please give me some feedback and opinions on what you think and thank you
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 08:10:07 PM »
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 11:07:51 PM »
Look i wasn't meaning to sound dumb. I'm good at flying these planes, i just wanted some opinions.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 12:02:18 AM »
If you're on such a tight budget that you can't afford 2 more reliable servos, then you might need to consider scratch building your planes from foam.  Instead of buying another kit, consider a book (or other teaching material, maybe on youtube?) about how to use hot wire foam cutting.  A friend of mine can build 10 planes just as quickly as he can build one, for 1/10th the cost of a kit plane.  He just gets wingtip and wing root airfoil templates, sets up a jig, and slice slice slice cuts cheap foam into wing sets.  Reinforce them with bits of hardwood, balsa, or carbon fiber if you want to get fancy, glue a $6 microservo in the wing for each aileron, and you're halfway there.

Come up with your own designs for planes, and fabricate them yourself.  It's the only way to do it if you're really on that tight of a budget.  Also, find a source for cheap small servos.  My friend found a place that would sell him 20-packs for about $100, so he never worried about having to use bad servos.  If one was suspect or got ruined in a crash, he didn't feel too bad about chucking it in the trash since it was only $5 for each one.

As for that predator model, friends of mine who fly real predators tell me that the plane flies like crap.  Maybe the model is better, but the real thing was optimized for endurance and payload rather than handling characteristics.  Stick to conventional non-scale aircraft and you'll probably have better results.  If you want to get creative, start building your own designs out of foam.  That way you can make whatever you want out of foam, and make a whole bunch of spare wings and stuff if you like the results.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 12:46:06 AM »
If you're on such a tight budget that you can't afford 2 more reliable servos, then you might need to consider scratch building your planes from foam.  Instead of buying another kit, consider a book (or other teaching material, maybe on youtube?) about how to use hot wire foam cutting.  A friend of mine can build 10 planes just as quickly as he can build one, for 1/10th the cost of a kit plane.  He just gets wingtip and wing root airfoil templates, sets up a jig, and slice slice slice cuts cheap foam into wing sets.  Reinforce them with bits of hardwood, balsa, or carbon fiber if you want to get fancy, glue a $6 microservo in the wing for each aileron, and you're halfway there.

Come up with your own designs for planes, and fabricate them yourself.  It's the only way to do it if you're really on that tight of a budget.  Also, find a source for cheap small servos.  My friend found a place that would sell him 20-packs for about $100, so he never worried about having to use bad servos.  If one was suspect or got ruined in a crash, he didn't feel too bad about chucking it in the trash since it was only $5 for each one.

As for that predator model, friends of mine who fly real predators tell me that the plane flies like crap.  Maybe the model is better, but the real thing was optimized for endurance and payload rather than handling characteristics.  Stick to conventional non-scale aircraft and you'll probably have better results.  If you want to get creative, start building your own designs out of foam.  That way you can make whatever you want out of foam, and make a whole bunch of spare wings and stuff if you like the results.

Good advice, With the servo's, I stripped them out of my last Aerobird, they twitch to much that is why I was unsure. As for building my own plane from scratch I really like that idea. Is there a specific type of foam I need to get and where do i get it at? I Would like some help with idea's and how to use and what to use. If you can thank you so much.
Also thanks for warning me, I was looking at some video's of the predator, doesn't seem to want to fly at all. So I was reconsidering.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 02:04:39 AM »
I Know I posted on here before when i got the Hellcat. I logged some time in it and didn't work out to well. I moved on the the Firebird Phantom, and was able to keep in in the air until the battery died and come in for an easy landing. I then moved onto the Aerobird3 which was like the Phantom but was a 3 channel instead of a 2 channel. Ended up buying 2 cause one of them crashed doing aerobatics.(Had if for about 4 months before the final crash, tried a loop to low and didn't have enough room to do it) Second one flew great for almost 6 months until the wing snapped in half in mid flight on a windy day. I heard later customer reports that the wing breaking in flight was very common after a good amount of air time. Later I attempted a repair at the hellcat and it worked somewhat, wing was a bloody mess and no amount of toothpicks epoxy and duct tape would work.

Anyway I'm good and think fast so it should allow me to respond to faster control movements but wanted your opinion on this new plane idea. http://www.nitroplanes.com/81a66y-q-1-camodesert.html I have the motor, the speed controller and 2 reliable servo's and 2 others i'm not so sure about. As soon as i get enough money I might consider buying this plane. Please give me some feedback and opinions on what you think and thank you

Lol this is legoman!!! He had an r/c hellcat that he talked about all the time on here!
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 10:02:33 AM »
Lol this is legoman!!! He had an r/c hellcat that he talked about all the time on here!
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 10:06:03 AM »
RC flyer on a budget? Build your own out of blue fan fold foam. You can buy it from your local Home Depot or Lowes. It is what I do. When I crash the hell out of any of my planes I just hot glue them back together or use clear packing tape or just build a new one and dump all the electronics from the old one into the new one. If you use the blue fff you can build airframes that only cost you penny's per plane. If you do decide to go this route I suggest checking out www.rcgroups.com especially the scratch built foamy section to find more airframe plans than you could shake a stick at. Also, a great way to improve your rc skills without the possibility of destroying something is to download the free software called FMS (flying model sim) to your computer and hook up your transmitter to the PC and fly digital versions of RC planes, google it to find it. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more about scratch building or the RC flying hobbie in general. Good luck F22

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I forgot to metion, try using www.hobbyking.com for really cheap servos/rcvr's/motors/batteries as well as cheap ARF kits. I would also suggest you switch to LiPo batteries and brushless motors if you havent already, just be careful of the fire hazzard LiPos can cause.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 10:49:31 AM »
Just got off the phone with my grandfather. Said I needed to find a plan that suits my skills, I'm going to www.rcpowers.com Since its a site i know by heart. I'm also looking atwww.rcgroups.com I'm looking towards an F22 easy build, looks easy to fly and they say it is, but i'm not to sure about that either.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 07:16:36 PM »
An idea for the F22 Easy build, i'm planning on going ahead with it. Air soft grenade drop system.  :lol :lol Its a good idea and its allowed but the plane will probably get shot up
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 07:28:20 PM »
all the more reason to build it out of cheap blue fff. I actually have a plane that I put a airsoft gun on, was a lot of fun but added a lot of weight, keep that in mind when modifying your planes.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 08:01:38 PM »
all the more reason to build it out of cheap blue fff. I actually have a plane that I put a airsoft gun on, was a lot of fun but added a lot of weight, keep that in mind when modifying your planes.
I wish i could add a gun, but its just going to be bombs, might attempt to attach a camera to it also. The F22 plan is $10 and all i need are servo connectors, carbon rods and the foam. Not sure how much that will be though all together.  :headscratch:
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 09:30:17 AM »
Well it is your money to spend how you want. I think it is silly to spend even a small amount like $10 for plans when you can find free ones on rcgroups. Here are 2 threads with PDF file plans for F22 builds.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795691

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740049

Also, if you need some insperation check out this thread, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1333878 it lists close to 500 threads with pictures and plans for different airframes, including the 2 I listed above.
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Re: New R/C Air plane Idea
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 03:12:47 PM »
My dad is going to buy the plans, I'm buying the foam. Now in the RCpowers video he said something about going somewhere after you buy it and it will be printed out for you or something, it wasn't all to clear. If i get the plans and print it out can you take it somewhere and get the overall size increased so it includes more parts per sheet? I'm curious
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