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germany vs japan vs italy.
« on: January 17, 2011, 09:42:27 PM »
just a fun competition of opinions.  :salute

which country do you think had the best out of these catagories?

1.best fighter?
2. best bomber?
3.best airforce.
4.best battleship?
5.best navy?
6.best pilot? (single person)
7.best pilots? (as a whole)
8.best training?
9.best divebomber?
10.best attack aircraft?.
11. best bomb?(type of bomb examples being britains grand slammer, americas A-bomb).
and finally
12.best radar?
13.best squadren
14.best squadren colors
15most kills overall.

all answers and opinions are welcome  :salute

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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 09:52:25 PM »
Germany Strieght accross the board, with the exception of battleships, although Tirpiz and Bismark VS Yamato and Musashi would be epic
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 09:54:43 PM »
Poland :old:
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 09:57:18 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 10:01:31 PM »
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 10:02:40 PM »
 :old: they are to


The Polish Air Force's Contribution
In July 1940, Hitler ordered his forces to invade Britain. As a prelude to the cross-Channel invasion, the German Air Force (the Luftwaffe) was to overpower Britain's air defenses. In the ensuing Air War between the German and Allied Air Forces, which lasted through the end of October 1940 and resulted in the defeat of the Luftwaffe, 1 in 8 of allied pilots was Polish, and the highest scoring squadron within the whole of Allied air forces was the Polish Air Force 303 (Kosciuszko) Squadron which accounted for 125 enemy planes. The highest scoring allied fighter pilot was also a member of that squadron. All told, the Polish pilots were responsible for 201 of the Luftwaffe's 1100 planes lost. It is said that the Battle of Britain was won by a narrow margin, and the contribution of the already combat experienced Polish pilots was decisive.
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 10:10:12 PM »
All 3 came second.

Delorean was probably a good car.
Amiga may have been a good computer.

All consigned to the "also rans".

Who is the prettiest ugly girl? Same logic.

Allied bombers, fighters, ships, technology and men overwhelmed and won - end of story. The term best usually implies that something cannot be bettered - what you're saying is "pick the least loser".

i don't mean to be negative, but there it is. History is about winners, because they write it.
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 10:15:16 PM »
1.best fighter? Germans. 262. duh.
2. best bomber? Germans. Ar234. duh
3.best airforce. Germans. Luftwaffe
4.best battleship? Japan. Yamato beats Bismarck any day of the week.
5.best navy? Japan. Duh.
6.best pilot? Tough call, but I'm gonna give it to Nishizawa of Japan, because he flew inferior aircraft and still got 100+kills.
7.best pilots? At their best, Germany and Japan are pretty equal, even though the Japanese pilots quality fell off pretty rapidly. I'm calling it a tie.
8.best training? Germany.
9.best divebomber? Japan. Judy beats the Stuka and I don't think Germany had any others to match.
10.best attack aircraft? Not familiar with these models, but most Japanese bombers were crap, so, Germany.
11. best bomb?(type of bomb examples being britains grand slammer, americas A-bomb). Only thing I know that was awesome in this category was the Long Lance Torpedo, if that counts, so Japan.
and finally
12.best radar? Germany. Japanese radar was crap.


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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 10:19:24 PM »
you have to look at german U boat Success compaired to the ammount of ships Japan Sunk
and yamato had lots of guns but inferior ammunition
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 10:27:09 PM »
:old: they are to


The Polish Air Force's Contribution
In July 1940, Hitler ordered his forces to invade Britain. As a prelude to the cross-Channel invasion, the German Air Force (the Luftwaffe) was to overpower Britain's air defenses. In the ensuing Air War between the German and Allied Air Forces, which lasted through the end of October 1940 and resulted in the defeat of the Luftwaffe, 1 in 8 of allied pilots was Polish, and the highest scoring squadron within the whole of Allied air forces was the Polish Air Force 303 (Kosciuszko) Squadron which accounted for 125 enemy planes. The highest scoring allied fighter pilot was also a member of that squadron. All told, the Polish pilots were responsible for 201 of the Luftwaffe's 1100 planes lost. It is said that the Battle of Britain was won by a narrow margin, and the contribution of the already combat experienced Polish pilots was decisive.


shhh. dont worry, if this thread got enough responces i was gonn create another country vs country with poland in it lol. save your facts until then.  :salute

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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2011, 10:34:00 PM »
Fighter-262/109/190
Bomber-234/he111
Dive-bomber-ju87/88
Airforce-Luftwaffe
Navy-Japanese by long shot
Pilot-Hans Joachim Marsielle/Eric Hartmann
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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2011, 10:45:28 PM »
Regarding the Navy....it's a question of how you define "best".  As the war proved, U-boats were not enough to wrest control of the ocean from your adversaries. Although the U-boats were very successful commerce raiders, they never outright defeated the RN surface fleet. Japan had a very modern navy that was superior in quantity and quality. Both sides produced fine ships, but the Japanese had more of them, and superiority in the one category that truly mattered: aircraft carriers.

As far as Yamato vs. Bismarck...here's the tail of the tape:

Main Battery:

Yamato 9X18.1inch, range 4.2 km, Bismarck: 8x15inch range 3.6km. Advantage: Yamato

Armor belt: Yamato: 16inch, Bismarck: 13 inch. Advantage: Yamato

Speed: Yamato 27 knots, Bismarck 30 knots. Advantage Bismarck

One crucial aspect was fire control, since in general, whichever ship got the first hit would win the engagement.  Neither ship had the accurate radar guided fire control. Based on operations it's hard to tell which ship was the better shot, but I would say Yamato would have the edge since her optics and radar were slightly better and accurate at longer ranges.

Fortunes of war aside, Bismarck really doesn't have much of a chance against Yamato, especially since her 15inch shells would do little against a 16 inch armor belt, while Yamato's shells would tear through the Bismarck like it was tin foil.

Yamato gets the first hit, devastating Bismarck with one shot. After that it's pretty much over.


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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 10:52:25 PM »
Yamato gets the first hit, devastating Bismarck with one shot. After that it's pretty much over.

.....until the US Divebombers come in and sink it. 

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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 10:55:26 PM »
 :cheers:

.....until the US Divebombers come in and sink it. 


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Re: germany vs japan vs italy.
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 11:03:24 PM »
either way, Naval things were not German Forte, so I guess I will change my answer to japan, but other then that germany for everthing else,  Bombs, Hs-293 the closest thing the japanese got to this was the Ohka, so if torpedos count the Hs-293 should be considered aswell
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