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Offline Badger

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« on: May 18, 2000, 10:11:00 AM »
Hi everyone....    

Now that I have your attention......no, I'm not quitting.

I know that will make some of you unhappy, especially perhaps lately, Hitech and Pyro.    

I didn't know where else to post this since there's such a feeding frenzy of old and new threads, all hollering about the same matter, so I am taking the risk of getting flamed for yet another new topic.  I did that because I do think the issue is important enough for everyone to stop and think for a second.

Please read carefully !

I think there's a HUGE misunderstanding by the AH customer base as to exactly what HTC is proposing with this UBER plane idea.

In my opinion, the user base is over reacting to the wrong issue.  There seems to be a growing misconception that a player will be somehow excluded from flying high end CURRENT or future planes, if they don't have good enough scores or some such nonsense, which is NOT the case !!!!!

I believe HTC simply wants to have an UBER plane available, one that would most likely never have seen combat and was probably a late or post war entry.  I have no idea what it would be, but perhaps something like the P61 "Black Widow" etc.  I don't even know if my example really ever existed, as I'm not really a WWII plane historian, so I can't really give you good examples  (Funked....help me.....examples?)  It would be most likely an exotic kind of plane that if introduced into the arena in quantity (generally available), it would completely upset and destroy game play balance.

The idea is to make it sort of an award for the top scorer or whatever the decision process would be to award it.  In WB for example, the top 3 scorers for the tour in an arena get their name posted in the sign-on screen.  If this kind of example was how winners would be determined here on AH (not saying that's what it is !), they would get an option to select that plane in the hanger and fly it for some period of time.  Can you imagine the rest of the arena participants?  They would be having a riot being on one huge dweeb hunt, something like you get when WB lets that "KILLME" character loose and awards the guy who gets him with tee-shirts.  Conversely, if you have won the dweeb plane and get killed flying it, besides being embarrassed, you are punished in future scoring somehow and the victor who nailed you gets some form of bonus.  If handled properly, it could be kind of exciting and generate some plain FUN, which is what it should be all about, certainly in the "let's please everyone" MA.

Personally, I think it's a fantastic marketing idea, unique to AH and not available in competitive products.

WTFG Hitech and Pyro !!!!

I'm not a very talented or terrific player, so probably won't get to fly the "dweebmobile" on-line, but I really can't wait to get my shot at hunting down the guy who won the right to fly the critter and is actually using it.  If I nailed him, it would be my personal 15 minutes in the sun.      Maybe eventually, we could also have an UBER tank which couldn't be taken out by planes for us ground pounders.      A German Maus or Royal King Tiger on the prowl.  Now that would be exciting for guys like me who enjoy driving tanks.  Whatever, but I think you get the idea of how it could stimulate renewed interest from time to time, due to "same old...same old" burn out syndrome that goes on with many of these on-line Sims.

Three personal observations for Hitech and Pyro.  I would love it if it was available in OFF-LINE mode for all of us so I could fly it to get a feel for its capabilities.  Second, I would also like to see it's icon as a UNIQUE identifier (color?..size?...pic of a Pyro?...hehe), whatever, so I could holler "Dweeb Hunt !!" over channel 100.      Finally, no jets as I think it's kind of obvious, mundane and trite, taking away from the marketing pizzazz of being a prop simulation.

You know something, more creative ideas like this and it actually might get this old "stuck up" realism bigot back into the MA for some good old fashion FUN!!!  You think maybe Hitech and Pyro are onto something here?  I do.....again, congratulations HTC.  Innovation without destroying playability.

HITECH/PYRO...if I also have misunderstood the planned implementation of this marketing idea, please correct me so I don't look like a complete fool.

Thank you.

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Badger

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Edit addition:  ps...It's another birthday for an old badger today, so be nice.  


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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2000, 10:17:00 AM »
Well, if you put it this way.....---->  
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »
Examples:

F8F Bearcat
Spitfire Mk22
J7W1 Shinden
Ta152
Meteor MkIV
B-36 Peacemaker
P-80 Shooting Star
A7M Reppu "Sam"
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2000, 11:00:00 AM »
 It's the way I've always understood it. I just wish many people would  just shut the 'eff' up for once and stop dramatising thier imagined misfortunes to come. If they'd stop spouting these half baked and ill thought out predictions of the inevitable doom & gloom based on a feature not even implemented and just went with the flow till they could actually see a problem then this newsgroup would be a better place to visit.

  -Westy

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2000, 11:23:00 AM »
For what it's worth, my interpretation is that it's not only going to be the best pilots that get fly these planes (or tanks). It's obvious that the best will get such planes more often, but even an uber plane is not invincible if you catch them right. If you lose a lot of points when you get shot down in your uber ride then it will equalise out how often the super pilots get the supper planes.  
I would have though it was only natural such planes will be available offline, and H2H.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2000, 11:28:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Westy:
I just wish many people would  just shut the 'eff' up for once and stop dramatising thier imagined misfortunes to come. If they'd stop spouting these half baked and ill though out predictions of the inevitable of doom & gloom
  -Westy


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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2000, 12:01:00 PM »
Damnit Westy !!!! Stop making so much sense !! You might actually sway some people to SANITY!!!

 

Badger, nice post too.

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2000, 12:24:00 PM »
  and  

WEll,
THere is pros and cons

PROS  
Will see less ubber planes in the arena

BIG CON!!  

I pay $29.95 a month, I FLY what ever I D**M well please!

I like the concept but IF done wrong there is going to be a LARGE increase in complaints and loss of customer base.  HTC is treading thin ICE on this one.  Be careful is all I can say.  FOr the DIE HARD SIm pilot this is no big deal but for a newbie who really wants to fly that TA152 but because of lack of skill he may never get that chance....  Food for thought!

I personnaly like it just thinking for the other 1/2 of your customer base that keeps HTC in business.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2000, 12:31:00 PM »
hehe...I just thought of something funny, but intriguing.

How about a very simple reward for the guy who bags Mr. Uberplane?

The children's game of TAG.  If you nail him, you're "IT" and get to use the dweebmobile until someone tags you.

Just a thought, hmmmm...might be dumb....

hmmmmm...maybe it's something separate, but coexists with the high scorer uberplane thing, that permits guys like me who would never score high enough, a real chance of using one of these beasts on-line.  Sort of like winning a lottery....hmmm...a lottery....another idea maybe.  Monthly draw from new sign-ups barrel for a free use of it....hmmm...ideas..ideas..id eas....

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2000, 12:38:00 PM »
Dunno if this idea has popped up yet, so here goes:

How about holding a lottery, where each tour a set number of uber rides are doled out. The lucky pilots of this "Uber Lottery"(tm) get to fly their uber mounts until they are shot down. The person who shot them down now gets the uber ride until they get shot down. This way, the uber rides get passed around from person to person. And if the ack weenies get the kill, the plane goes into a general pool, to be awarded in the next lottery.

This would give people like me who don't get that many hours of AH flight time per week a real chance to fly the Uber rides.

Comments?

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2000, 12:49:00 PM »
I like it banana....  

ideas...ideas...ideas.....

hmmmm....Hitech and Pyro fly once a week through an arena......guy who bags them gets use of the uberplane they're flying.....

hmmmm.....pay $10 extra and you get to rent an uberplane for a month.....nahhh...dumb idea...rewards to bourgeois rich folks who don't work.  

hmmmm....any pilot who makes a 10 kill sortie (not counting torque) get use of an uberplane....nahhh...dumb.... find a field vulchfest and that's fairly easy.  

How can average guys like daddog (separate thread), banana and I get a sporting chance at a dweebmobile?

ideas...ideas...ideas....

Edit add-on:  Sponser 3 new sign-ups to Aces High and you get use of dweebmobile for a month?....hehe


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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2000, 12:59:00 PM »
How about an auction for real money to fly a limited # of super planes.  Highest bidders would receive access to a limited number of "lives" for one tour.  To make it a worthwhile cause, send the money to a charity.

Can you see the possible headlines and the potential free advertising?  "Online Air Combat simulation community donated $$$$$ dollars to [insert large international charity here].  HiTech Creations founder, Doug Balmos, announced the donation at the first annual convention for the Aces High online community......"

MiG

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2000, 12:59:00 PM »
If the people who say there gonna quit, dont start quitting. Im gonna quit.

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2000, 01:00:00 PM »
 
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.....HiTech Creations founder, Doug Balmos, announced the donation at the first annual convention for the Aces High online community......"

MiG

wow MIG....that one's really interesting....<salute>



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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2000, 01:02:00 PM »
 
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If the people who say there gonna quit, dont start quitting. Im gonna quit.

hehe...easymo..I love ya....and yes, my eyes are better, thanks for asking...<salute>