Author Topic: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.  (Read 1063 times)

Offline MarineUS

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2679
      • Imperial Legion
Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« on: January 21, 2011, 09:41:10 PM »
Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.

Dr. Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland, outlined the scenario to news.com.au. Betelgeuse, one of the night sky's brightest stars, is losing mass, indicating it is collapsing. It could run out of fuel and go super-nova at any time.

When that happens, for at least a few weeks, we'd see a second sun, Carter says. There may also be no night during that timeframe.

The Star Wars-esque scenario could happen by 2012, Carter says... or it could take longer. The explosion could also cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole 1300 light years from Earth, reports news.com.au.

But doomsday sayers should be careful about speculation on this one. If the star does go super-nova, Earth will be showered with harmless particles, according to Carter. "They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever," he told news.com.au.

In fact, a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth. According to Carter this "star stuff" makes up the universe. "It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium....a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi," said Carter.

UPDATE: To clarify, the news.com.au article does not say a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth, but implies a supernova could be beneficial, stating, "Far from being a sign of the apocalypse, according to Dr Carter the supernova will provide Earth with elements necessary for survival and continuity."
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

HiTech

Offline CptTrips

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8542
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 10:01:15 PM »


There is a lot about that article that sounds off to me assuming you quoted it exactly.

In any case,  if you were outside tomorrow night and suddenly saw Betelgeuse light up the sky, keep in mind that actually happened 1300 years ago.  It just took that long for the light of the event to get here.

Any time you look up at the night sky, the light from those stars took thousands, tens of thousands of years to reach your eye.  You are literally looking far back in time from your backyard.


:D,
Wab
Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

Offline F22RaptorDude

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3641
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 10:08:34 PM »

There is a lot about that article that sounds off to me assuming you quoted it exactly.

In any case,  if you were outside tomorrow night and suddenly saw Betelgeuse light up the sky, keep in mind that actually happened 1300 years ago.  It just took that long for the light of the event to get here.

Any time you look up at the night sky, the light from those stars took thousands, tens of thousands of years to reach your eye.  You are literally looking far back in time from your backyard.


:D,
Wab
Thats right, i heard that some people look so far they can see the beginning of the universe still happening.
Reaper in a T-50-2 Scout tank in 10 seconds flat

Offline mensa180

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4010
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 10:13:05 PM »
This whole Betelgeuse exploding thing has been around for decades.  Not sure why they've chosen now to re-sensationalize it.  2012 coming up?  Every astronomer on the planet hopes it occurs within their life time, but we just don't know.

Also Betelgeuse is only ~640 light years away, not 1300.
inactive
80th FS "Headhunters"
Public Relations Officer

Offline CptTrips

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8542
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 10:26:34 PM »
Also Betelgeuse is only ~640 light years away, not 1300.

I stand corrected.  I was going to look that up but I've had too much rum. ;)

I guess this is like the chain emails I get forwarded to me from friends every 2 years saying that Mars is going to approach so close that it will appear as large as the full Moon.

"Is this real?"

Uhhh.  If you look up and see Mars in the night sky as large as the full Moon.....well look on the bright side; all your troubles are over.
 
:devil,
Wab

Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

Offline vorticon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7935
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 10:33:44 PM »
slow news day *shrug*

Offline BiPoLaR

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4133
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 10:34:24 PM »
WE ARE GOING TO DIE!!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!
R.I.P. T.E.Moore (Dad) 9-9-45 - 7-16-10.
R.I.P. Wes Poss  (Best Friend) 11-14-75 - 5-2-14

Offline MarineUS

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2679
      • Imperial Legion
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 11:09:32 PM »
meh - I just thought it was pretty neat :P
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

HiTech

Offline Denholm

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9667
      • No. 603 Squadron
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 11:16:20 PM »
...You are literally looking far back in time from your backyard.
:D,
Wab
At least there's something entertaining to watch. Television wasn't so lame back then.... :t
Get your Daily Dose of Flame!
FlameThink.com
No. 603 Squadron... Visit us on the web, if you dare.

Drug addicts are always disappointed after eating Pot Pies.

Offline Seraphim

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 527
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 12:53:00 AM »
Not really anything to look forward to, but it would be nice to see.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/betelgeuse-explode-scientists-say/

Offline zack1234

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13217
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 04:47:08 AM »
Its about time we invented warp drive :old:
There are no pies stored in this plane overnight

                          
The GFC
Pipz lived in the Wilderness near Ontario

Offline guncrasher

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17417
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2011, 04:56:44 AM »
Its about time we invented warp drive :old:

why reinvent the wheel.  let's just use the one from star trek. :devil

semp
you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

Offline MarineUS

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2679
      • Imperial Legion
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 07:46:59 AM »
Semp,

That would be too easyyyyyyyyyy!  :devil
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

HiTech

Offline Shuffler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 27311
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2011, 09:16:45 AM »
I saw two moons the other night.... down by the river some folks were skinny dippin'
80th FS "Headhunters"

S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning In A Bottle)

Offline NormH3

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 379
      • We do good things!
Re: Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 09:22:03 AM »
When the Aliens abducted me last year, we took a shortcut around Betelgeuse and it looked fine too me.