Author Topic: Lower Bomber Eny  (Read 1121 times)

Offline Bronk

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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2011, 08:35:00 AM »
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2011, 11:26:17 AM »
No it wont. ENY takes care of that already. The OP is really asking for an ENY on bombs which is ridiculous.  :rolleyes:

All bombers drop bombs, not just the biggest 3.

You can't see the merit?  One of the biggest whines of all time is that teams with huge numbers will roll the little guys off the map using their "uber hordez."  Lowering the ENY of the biggest ord carrying bombers would make this much less of a possibility, and in fact, would be kind of neat; you'd see loads of B-25's, A-20's and Bostons.  I'm not saying the ENY should be 5, but 10 or 15 would probably be reasonable.

Or we could make formations disabled after a certain ENY...
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2011, 12:31:09 PM »
All bombers drop bombs, not just the biggest 3.

You can't see the merit?  One of the biggest whines of all time is that teams with huge numbers will roll the little guys off the map using their "uber hordez."  Lowering the ENY of the biggest ord carrying bombers would make this much less of a possibility, and in fact, would be kind of neat; you'd see loads of B-25's, A-20's and Bostons.  I'm not saying the ENY should be 5, but 10 or 15 would probably be reasonable.

Or we could make formations disabled after a certain ENY...
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2011, 01:37:30 PM »
If you don't pork the ORD then you pay the price.

That's like saying there shouldn't be fighter ENY because if you don't drop FH's you pay the price.
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2011, 03:36:33 PM »
That's like saying there shouldn't be fighter ENY because if you don't drop FH's you pay the price.

One fighter armed with rockets and bombs or loaded with cannons can kill the ord at any base....by itself. It takes 9000lbs of bombs to kill FH's at a small field, 12000lbs for a medium, and 21000lbs for a large. Ord is down for 45 minutes if not resupplied, FH's are down for 15 minutes.

See what I'm getting at?
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2011, 03:53:00 PM »
One fighter armed with rockets and bombers or loaded with cannons can kill the ord at any base....by itself. It takes 9000lbs of bombs to kill FH's at a small field, 12000lbs for a medium, and 21000lbs for a large. Ord is down for 45 minutes if not resupplied, FH's are down for 15 minutes.

See what I'm getting at?

I don't think you are thinking about the whole outnumbered part of this problem.

Not only does porking ORD at one base do nothing but make the bombers come in at a higher altitude from a slightly further base (which makes them even more difficult to kill in an outnumbered situation), it is extremely difficult to get a heavy bird to the enemy base to do porking runs when you see red everywhere.  Most times, when I've been on the team that outnumbers the few, the planes that come in to pork go down after one salvo.  Then if they manage to take something down the base gets resupplied in seconds since there are so many players involved.

I really quite frankly haven't heard anyone state a reason that adjusting the ENY on bombers would hurt gameplay.  The closest thing to an argument I've seen is "it's ridiculous," which in reality, isn't an argument at all.  If your team has more players, take up more smaller bombers to get the same result.

It seems like this makes really very good sense.
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Re: Lower Bomber Eny
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 07:45:51 PM »
I did read carefully. I completely disagree. It is obvious you wish the style you enjoy to have greater preference in the game. Sorry but it is what it is. Everyone has the same choices in aircraft. If you dont like bombers in the area then you need to pork more fields. Since you dont want to pork fields you prefer to whine on the wishlist and insult people about their reading abilities. You really do not have a valid argument in either topic (bombers or reading ability).

I think you are just lazy and dont want to try harder.  :D

No you really did miss the point of my first post.  You did.  It has nothing to do with my "style" of playing.  You cant even begin to label my "style" of playing.  Obviously, you have trouble differentiating between a whine and a well voiced opinion.  My opinion is that the heavy bombers are taken for granted, if you disagree then no issue, I could care less, but don't start start insinuating things that are simply not true.  You make erroneous and haphazard statements about me being lazy and not porkin' fields and whining when you have absolutely no clue who you are talking to.  No one gets shot down more than me and my Mossie while porkin' fields.  ;)           
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