Cold Fusion Possibility?

[AAJagerX]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/24/italian-scientists-claim-cold-fusion-breakthrough/?test=faces

Apparently, a couple of Italians are claiming that they made it work.  I can't even imagine the possibilities if this were true.

[Penguin]

Itsa bolgna!

-Penguin

[AAJagerX]

Itsa bolgna!

-Penguin

Lol, The Loonyversity of Baloney.

Ah, sweet irony.

[moot]

Low energy nuclear reactions have been around for a while, and the gist of it is that no one really knows what it's about.  BlackLightPower seems to also be pursuing the same kind of reaction, and elsewhere on the web people are speculating that Rossi and Focardi are using the same phenomena as BLP.

The Rossi/Focardi gizmo was demo'd as a black box, barely.  They refuse to show their reactor's insides in the hope of securing a patent.  Reportedly they're aiming at commercial demonstration in a couple of years.

[AAJagerX]

Low energy nuclear reactions have been around for a while, and the gist of it is that no one really knows what it's about.  BlackLightPower seems to also be pursuing the same kind of reaction, and elsewhere on the web people are speculating that Rossi and Focardi are using the same phenomena as BLP.

The Rossi/Focardi gizmo was demo'd as a black box, barely.  They refuse to show their reactor's insides in the hope of securing a patent.  Reportedly they're aiming at commercial demonstration in a couple of years.

After a bit of searching, it looks as if the Italian govt. wants them to build a megawatt sized reactor to see if it's feasable for use.  Interesting stuff.

[eagl]

Unless someone else can start from basic parts and reproduce the results, it is a scam. 

[68ZooM]

i dunno looks more like a power hitter bong

[Simaril]

Unless someone else can start from basic parts and reproduce the results, it is a scam. 

or lab error.

Some US researchers made the news for the same kind of thing back in the ?70s or early 80s. Turned out their conclusions were messed up because of a measurement error, and they attributed the "extra" energy to fusion.

[moot]

Or no one's quite sure what exactly produces the effects known as 'cold fusion' / 'LENR'

[Simaril]

Naturally, it's hard to document the processes behind a non-existent phenomenon....

[AAJagerX]

Naturally, it's hard to document the processes behind a non-existent phenomenon....

I wouldn't go THAT far.  When fire was discovered, the cavemen didn't fully understand that either. 

[eagl]

I read that they're trying to sell it, but won't let anyone reproduce the results.  That makes it a scam instead of an "error".

[grizz441]

I want to believe..

[Simaril]

I wouldn't go THAT far.  When fire was discovered, the cavemen didn't fully understand that either. 

Just because some real things are hard to understand doesn't mean that everything we don't understand is true. For cold fusion to happen, there would have to be major rethinking of the way nuclear physics works.

Cold fusion is essentially impossible - the modern equivalent of the perpetual motion machine. You think all those journals that turned these guys down were just being pig headed?  These guys are scammers....If fusion occurs - cold or warm - there HAVE to be atomic particles released, and these guys say there isn't any. It's a pipe dream.

[Simaril]

I wouldn't go THAT far.  When fire was discovered, the cavemen didn't fully understand that either. 

Just because some real things are hard to understand doesn't mean that everything we don't understand is true. For cold fusion to happen, there would have to be major rethinking of the way nuclear physics works.

Cold fusion is essentially impossible - the modern equivalent of the perpetual motion machine. You think all those journals that turned these guys down were just being pig headed?  These guys are scammers....If fusion occurs - cold or warm - there HAVE to be atomic particles released, and these guys say there isn't any. It's a pipe dream.