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Offline Tyrannis

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request about the m-3
« on: January 24, 2011, 07:18:53 PM »
i was looking over the info for the m-3 earlyer, and i noticed it said

"crew:3+10 passengers"

and it got me thinking, does an m3 really take a 3-man crew to drive it? im guessing the extra two cremembers are for the mg. (one the gunner, one the ammo handler,also i say this without ever actually seeing an m-3 in real life. so i apologize if im mis-informed).
so my wish is-

could we have the option to choose the m-3 WITHOUT an mg? and therefore open up room for 12 passengers instead of just  10?
those 2 extra soldiers could make all the difference in a full-on heated battle.
just my wish  :salute
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 07:29:49 PM »
Driver, .50 cal gunner, .30 cal gunner, 10 troops.
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 07:30:40 PM »
EDIT:  Double post
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 07:35:17 PM by AAJagerX »
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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 07:40:58 PM »
Quote from: AAJagerX on January 24, 2011, 07:29:49 PM
Driver, .50 cal gunner, .30 cal gunner, 10 troops.
theres a .30cal on the m3? where? i think your thinking of the lvt troop transport.
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 07:44:31 PM »
Quote from: AAJagerX on January 24, 2011, 07:29:49 PM
Driver, .50 cal gunner, .30 cal gunner, 10 troops.

Not all M3's were equipped with both .30s and .50s and not all M3s had 3 crew members, it really depended on the role of the half track.  Sometimes M3s would operate with a crew of one and sometimes as many as 5 or more, again depending on what role the half track was performing.

As for Nemisis'...err tyrannis' request...he just wants to be able to carry more troops to make it easier to capture a base.  HiTech set a limit of 10 troops for the M3 and and C-47, one must learn to live and work within such confines.  Surprised he hasn't asked to carry more than 10 troops in a C-47.


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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 07:49:19 PM »
M3-Variants: 

T14 - Prototype Army Designation appearing in 1931; White Scout Car M2 hull with Kegresse half-track suspension system.


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Half-Track Car M2 - Base Production Model based on the T14 prototype; production beginning in 1941 and operational service by May of that year.


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Half-Track Personnel Carrier M3 - Lengthened hull; dedicated personnel carrier variant developed from the M2; White 160AX engine.


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Half-Track Personnel Carrier M3A1 - Circular pulpit gun mount introduced


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Half-Track M3A2 - Designed as mortar carrier, APC or air defense system.


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Half-Track M3 - Communications Variant


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Half-Track M3 - Ambulance Variant


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Half-Track M3 - Artillery Tow Vehicle


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Half-Track M3 - Mortar Carrier


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Gun Motor Carriage M3 - Self-Propelled Gun Platform; fitted with 75mm main gun (M1897A4).


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M16 MGMC - Quad-50 Air Defense Variant; 4 x .50 caliber heavy machine guns.


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Half-Track Personnel Carrier M5 - Alternative production methodology; Lend-Lease production model.


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Half-Track Personnel Carrier M5A1 - M5 with M49 machine gun mount


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Half-Track Personnel Carrier M5A2 - M5 and M5A1 combination production


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Half-Track Car M9


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T-12/M3 GMC - 75mm Gun Motor Carriage


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T12 HMC - 75mm or 105mm Pack Howitzer


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T48 GMC - 57mm Gun Motor Carriage


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T30 HMC - M1A1 75mm Gun Motor Carriage


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T38 HMC - T7 105mm Pack Howitzer


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T19 HMC - M2A1 105mm Howitzer


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M21 MMC - 81mm Motor Mortar Carriage


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T21 - 4.2 inch mortar carrier (never produced)


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M13 MGMC - 2 x 12.7mm machine gun AA variant.


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M16 MGMC - Shielded 2 x 12,7mm gun AA variant.


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M16A2 MGMC - Addition of rear door to hull.


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M17 - Based on M5 chassis for Lend-Lease to Soviet Union.


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T58 - Quad-Fifty mount with electrically powered turret (prototype)


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M15 CGMC - 2 x 12.7mm heavy machine guns fitted above 37mm autocannon with added crew protection.


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M15A1 CGMC - 2 x 12.7mm machine guns fitted under 37mm autocannon.


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M15 Special - Fitted with 40mm Bofors L/50 guns.


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Various other minor prototype versions as well.


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M3 Mk.A - Israeli Variant based on M5; RED-450 powerplants; various machine guns on M49 mount.


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M3 Mk.B - Israeli Variant based on M5; used as command carriers.


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M3 Mk.C - Israeli Variant based on M3; fitted with M1 81mm mortar.


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M3 Mk.D - Israeli Variant based on M3 mortar carrier; fitted with 120mm Soltam mortar system; first appearing in 1960.


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M3 TCM-20 - Israeli Variant based on M3 and M5 half-track series; fitted with Israeli-made TCM-20 turret mounting twin 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS404 cannons on Maxson turret systems.

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Offline AAJagerX

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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 11:08:47 PM »
Yup.  Just for reference, the one at Oshkosh 2 years back had the .50/.30 combo.
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 11:53:28 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on January 24, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
Surprised he hasn't asked to carry more than 10 troops in a C-47.

That is a great idea! Combine that with formations of C47s (like all other 'bomber' aircraft) and it would be awesome!!


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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 12:13:44 AM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on January 24, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
Not all M3's were equipped with both .30s and .50s and not all M3s had 3 crew members, it really depended on the role of the half track.  Sometimes M3s would operate with a crew of one and sometimes as many as 5 or more, again depending on what role the half track was performing.

As for Nemisis'...err tyrannis' request...he just wants to be able to carry more troops to make it easier to capture a base.  HiTech set a limit of 10 troops for the M3 and and C-47, one must learn to live and work within such confines.  Surprised he hasn't asked to carry more than 10 troops in a C-47.


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not "making it easier", just utlilizing a vehicles capabilities to the fullest.
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 12:55:30 AM »
I believe HiTech has said before if gvs/planes can carry more than 10 then he'll up the number of troops needed to take town to whatever the new max they can carry.


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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 10:11:19 AM »
I'm jealous, AAjeager...I'd kill to go to Oshkosh! :rock
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 10:15:45 AM »
Quote from: guncrasher on January 25, 2011, 12:55:30 AM
I believe HiTech has said before if gvs/planes can carry more than 10 then he'll up the number of troops needed to take town to whatever the new max they can carry.


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as easy as the towns are to capture now they should up the troop number to 20 or 30. 
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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 01:45:02 PM »
Quote from: grumpy37 on January 25, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
as easy as the towns are to capture now they should up the troop number to 20 or 30. 

I agree but leave the troop limits the same for M3s and goons so multiple troop sorties are needed.

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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 08:25:07 PM »
M15 CGMC - 2 x 12.7mm heavy machine guns fitted above 37mm autocannon with added crew protection.


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Re: request about the m-3
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 10:21:30 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on January 25, 2011, 01:45:02 PM
I agree but leave the troop limits the same for M3s and goons so multiple troop sorties are needed.

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thats what i meant, just didnt spell it out.  Multiple M3 or Goons should be needed now.
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