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Re: B-29
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2011, 07:28:10 AM »
wow, supersonic troll, that's new  :)
yaaaay! im going 670 mph :airplane:
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Re: B-29
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2011, 07:00:14 PM »
good for you... were alll going half-a-million mile an hour thourhg space. but i might as well ask... were you in a plane when that happened? :)

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Re: B-29
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2011, 07:08:51 PM »
If you want high speeds, go play Orbiter.

And also, to all of you massaging your egos in this thread: read Jayhawk's signature.  That quote from Skuzzy applies to you too.
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Re: B-29
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2011, 08:20:25 AM »
If you want high speeds, go play Orbiter.

And also, to all of you massaging your egos in this thread: read Jayhawk's signature.  That quote from Skuzzy applies to you too.
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Re: B-29
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2011, 08:03:04 PM »
i dont  :noid
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Re: B-29
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2011, 03:48:46 PM »
dirt im sorry too burst your bubbel but htc will find some strange way to perk it at like 900 perks for 3 buffs when the b29 will come in the game ppl will be like omg it xxx number of perks  :cry  i think the b29 should not be perked

Ehh it was a joke and yeah it will be just like our gv's they always find something over-perk them and screw there performance.

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Re: B-29
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2011, 04:52:20 PM »
the b29 doesnt deserve to be perked because of it's bombload alone.

theres only a 6,000lb difference between the lancasters 14,000lb bombload and the B29's 20,000lb bombload.


yet there is a 8,000lb bombload difference between the b17's 6,000lb bombload and the lanc's 14,000lb bombload.

and the 6,000lb bombload difference is the same between the b24 and lanc.


so if we're perking bombers due to there difference between bombloads. then the lancaster should of been perked this whole time. due to its huge 8,000lb difference between the b17's and lanc's bombloads.
(among heavy bombers)

so if you want the b29 perked when it comes simply because of its bombload, then perk the lancaster right now for its bombload.

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Re: B-29
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2011, 04:58:57 PM »
the b29 doesnt deserve to be perked because of it's bombload alone.

theres only a 6,000lb difference between the lancasters 14,000lb bombload and the B29's 20,000lb bombload.


yet there is a 8,000lb bombload difference between the b17's 6,000lb bombload and the lanc's 14,000lb bombload.

and the 6,000lb bombload difference is the same between the b24 and lanc.


so if we're perking bombers due to there difference between bombloads. then the lancaster should of been perked this whole time. due to its huge 8,000lb difference between the b17's and lanc's bombloads.
(among heavy bombers)

so if you want the b29 perked when it comes simply because of its bombload, then perk the lancaster right now for its bombload.

It doesn't matter I have 50 cookies down that its perked and I know HTC far to good to say it wont be, Like I said The gv's get overperked and they underperform its ridiculous. But it happens and I don't know what we could do to stop it.


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Re: B-29
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2011, 05:04:52 PM »
It doesn't matter I have 50 cookies down that its perked and I know HTC far to good to say it wont be, Like I said The gv's get overperked and they underperform its ridiculous. But it happens and I don't know what we could do to stop it.


yes, it probally will be perked, not because it DESERVES to be, but more so Hitech doesnt get as many "b29 is overused!" whines as we all know he would get if it wasent perked.

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Re: B-29
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2011, 05:26:48 PM »
the b29 doesnt deserve to be perked because of it's bombload alone.

theres only a 6,000lb difference between the lancasters 14,000lb bombload and the B29's 20,000lb bombload.


yet there is a 8,000lb bombload difference between the b17's 6,000lb bombload and the lanc's 14,000lb bombload.

and the 6,000lb bombload difference is the same between the b24 and lanc.


so if we're perking bombers due to there difference between bombloads. then the lancaster should of been perked this whole time. due to its huge 8,000lb difference between the b17's and lanc's bombloads.
(among heavy bombers)

so if you want the b29 perked when it comes simply because of its bombload, then perk the lancaster right now for its bombload.

I agree with you, alone it isn't a factor, but it's not alone.  I think though this issue of maximum ordnance capacity will be addressed though whenever the perked ordnance system is initiated (which is believed to include perking some of the lancaster's heavier loadouts as well).
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Re: B-29
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2011, 05:40:02 PM »
yes, it probally will be perked, not because it DESERVES to be, but more so Hitech doesnt get as many "b29 is overused!" whines as we all know he would get if it wasent perked.

HA good luck with "Its overused" Hell half the people in AH are against it and probably wont use it and another 25% dont really give a crap either way. And think about it If people were not so lazy they would practice on  how to kill buffs; it's not hard. As well as the fact that it will lose popularity quickly due to its so climb rate and need of longer runways.

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Re: B-29
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2011, 06:36:28 PM »
I agree with you, alone it isn't a factor, but it's not alone.  I think though this issue of maximum ordnance capacity will be addressed though whenever the perked ordnance system is initiated (which is believed to include perking some of the lancaster's heavier loadouts as well).

i cant really see a reason to perk the b29 tho.

-its climb rate is very slow (i believe people were saying it takes 60 mins to reach 20k?) even with 50% fuel it will be a slow climber, much slower than say b17's and b24s. i think this will nock it out of the running for quick responce bombings on close bases. you'd have to launch these from a much farther allied base to rise to an appropriate hieght, pretty much you could have a b17 to atleast 10k and doing its bomb run before you can even get the 29 level at 10k.
i see the b29 become 4 things.

1. a major city attacking aircraft.
2. an HQ bombing aircraft
3. a low alt-carpet bombing gv planes.
4.used by score hores who like to up in bombers and just randomly bomb towns to score bomber points.


-armament. this may be a reason why it deserves to be perked, but why? it only has 1 20mm i believe in the tail (same as the betty) and it has no nose or waist guns. so if you can line your plane up right, the b29 will be easy to HO or strafe from the side without being in the line of fire. so its an allmost equal trade off. the b29 will be suicidal to attack from the rear,top, or bottom. but vunerable in a HO or to the sides.



-fuel. this may be the only reason the b29 gets perked is because of its MASSIVE fuel option. but does the WHOLE bomber deserve to get perked just because of its fuel? no. maybe perk the option to change fuel above 50%, but dont punish the whole bomber for it.

-design. the B29 is a BIG target, it shouldnt be hard to hit with flak/field guns. and wirble pilots will have a field day when they see a b29 coming in to low-alt bomb. the bombers big enough to fill up there gunsights. so it doesnt deserve to be perked by its structure.

-performance. the b29 is a very good bomber, and is will have the highest ceiling count of a bomber in the game. but does it really deserve to be perked for that? since its climb rate is SO slow. it would take possably an hr to get it to its max ceiling alt. and if someones really gonna waste that much time to climb that high to avoid fighters then you know he isent a very good bomber pilot. (but i fear if the bomber is perked, you'll see alot of ppl doing this thing. because they will be too scared to lose there bomber points).



just my $0.02, theres nothing i see that makes it need to be perked. and certanly not the 400-500 perks people are asking for it.

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Re: B-29
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2011, 06:52:48 PM »
i cant really see a reason to perk the b29 tho.

-its climb rate is very slow (i believe people were saying it takes 60 mins to reach 20k?) even with 50% fuel it will be a slow climber, much slower than say b17's and b24s. i think this will nock it out of the running for quick responce bombings on close bases. you'd have to launch these from a much farther allied base to rise to an appropriate hieght, pretty much you could have a b17 to atleast 10k and doing its bomb run before you can even get the 29 level at 10k.
i see the b29 become 4 things.

1. a major city attacking aircraft.
2. an HQ bombing aircraft
3. a low alt-carpet bombing gv planes.
4.used by score hores who like to up in bombers and just randomly bomb towns to score bomber points.


-armament. this may be a reason why it deserves to be perked, but why? it only has 1 20mm i believe in the tail (same as the betty) and it has no nose or waist guns. so if you can line your plane up right, the b29 will be easy to HO or strafe from the side without being in the line of fire. so its an allmost equal trade off. the b29 will be suicidal to attack from the rear,top, or bottom. but vunerable in a HO or to the sides.



-fuel. this may be the only reason the b29 gets perked is because of its MASSIVE fuel option. but does the WHOLE bomber deserve to get perked just because of its fuel? no. maybe perk the option to change fuel above 50%, but dont punish the whole bomber for it.

-design. the B29 is a BIG target, it shouldnt be hard to hit with flak/field guns. and wirble pilots will have a field day when they see a b29 coming in to low-alt bomb. the bombers big enough to fill up there gunsights. so it doesnt deserve to be perked by its structure.

-performance. the b29 is a very good bomber, and is will have the highest ceiling count of a bomber in the game. but does it really deserve to be perked for that? since its climb rate is SO slow. it would take possably an hr to get it to its max ceiling alt. and if someones really gonna waste that much time to climb that high to avoid fighters then you know he isent a very good bomber pilot. (but i fear if the bomber is perked, you'll see alot of ppl doing this thing. because they will be too scared to lose there bomber points).



just my $0.02, theres nothing i see that makes it need to be perked. and certanly not the 400-500 perks people are asking for it.




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Re: B-29
« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2011, 08:11:51 PM »
A quick search suggests the B-29 carries 9438 gallons of fuel. One gallon of gasoline weighs about 6lbs.  That would make a B-29 with 50% fuel 28,314lbs lighter than a B-29 with 100% fuel.

That will have a very noticeable effect on climb rate.
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Re: B-29
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2011, 08:23:14 PM »
That will have a [very noticeable] effect on climb rate.

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