T34 Loading/Reloading

[rayace1]

The T34's relaoding system needs to be faster.

[beau32]

Do you have any facts to back it up that it needs to be faster. Bit of advice here is that unless you can show proof that it was faster to reload than it is now, your request will just be ignored.

[321BAR]

Do you have any facts to back it up that it needs to be faster. Bit of advice here is that unless you can show proof that it was faster to reload than it is now, your request will just be ignored.

sorry rayace, hes right

[Ghosth]

Just saying it doesn't accomplish anything unless you can cite specific data and point to it.

And no wiki is probably not an acceptable source, nor is the history channel.

[MachFly]

The T34's relaoding system needs to be faster.

I believe the only way to do that is to go back to 1940 and tell that to the Russians.

[Vinkman]

Do you have any facts to back it up that it needs to be faster. Bit of advice here is that unless you can show proof that it was faster to reload than it is now, your request will just be ignored.

What determines reload time in a manually loaded tank?  Number of Crew members? I've wondered why the sherman is so much faster than the T-34. There must have been some logic behind that, can anyone explain it?

Thanks,

Vinkman

[MachFly]

What determines reload time in a manually loaded tank?  Number of Crew members? I've wondered why the sherman is so much faster than the T-34. There must have been some logic behind that, can anyone explain it?

Thanks,

Vinkman

Don't quote me on this but I assume the mechanism that moves the round into the barrel and the location of the round in the tank (takes time to move it). 

[R 105]

 Part of the speed of the reloading was the breech block on the M-4s gun. When the gun was fired and tube come back to battery the breech block opens automatically for shell case extraction for the loader. Also if you have ever been in a WWII tanks space in the turret also plays a roll in loading time. The T-34 had a small turret.
 I was fortunate enough to have been stationed at Ft. Knox Kentucky as a training NCO and had an opportunity to clime all over many WWII tanks at the Patton Museum after hours.

[Pigslilspaz]

And no wiki is probably not an acceptable source, nor is the history channel.

I agree with history channel, but do you ever look at the bottom of wiki pages? That's what we call the Cited Sources section, meaning that folks did do their research on it.

[Penguin]

I agree with history channel, but do you ever look at the bottom of wiki pages? That's what we call the Cited Sources section, meaning that folks did do their research on it.

Unfortunately, many articles have those big warning flags on the top.  However, if there are enough good sources and no flags, I will stand by Wikipedia to the end. 

  to all those who answer the call of the Wiki

-Penguin

[guncrasher]

I agree with history channel, but do you ever look at the bottom of wiki pages? That's what we call the Cited Sources section, meaning that folks did do their research on it.

dont even bother explaining wiki, i gave up a long time ago.  you know all the other sources where only the author can post whatever he/she wants are more reliable  .

semp

[Soulyss]

Part of the speed of the reloading was the breech block on the M-4s gun. When the gun was fired and tube come back to battery the breech block opens automatically for shell case extraction for the loader. Also if you have ever been in a WWII tanks space in the turret also plays a roll in loading time. The T-34 had a small turret.
 I was fortunate enough to have been stationed at Ft. Knox Kentucky as a training NCO and had an opportunity to clime all over many WWII tanks at the Patton Museum after hours.

I also believe in the case of the T-34/76 it only had a two man turret which means that either the commander or gunner was pulling double duty as the loader which would certainly slow down fire rate.

[caldera]

The speed of the T-34 turret was modeled through real world testing done at HTC headquarters.  A war surplus T-34 was stationed out front to repel questions about Combat Tour. 

[VonMessa]

Part of the speed of the reloading was the breech block on the M-4s gun. When the gun was fired and tube come back to battery the breech block opens automatically for shell case extraction for the loader. Also if you have ever been in a WWII tanks space in the turret also plays a roll in loading time. The T-34 had a small turret.
 I was fortunate enough to have been stationed at Ft. Knox Kentucky as a training NCO and had an opportunity to clime all over many WWII tanks at the Patton Museum after hours.

What he said.

Also,  spent shell casings are effing HOT.  Gotta make sure you are not tossing one into the drivers head.    

[E25280]

Boils down to one word:  ergonomics.

The Sherman had good ergonomics for the crew.  The T-34 by comparison had very poor ergonomics for the crew.  Differences in physical room in the turret, number of crew members, location of ready rounds, turret basket (which the Sherman had and the T-34 did not), all contribute to the difference in the rate of fire between the two.