Are we really alone? Life beyond the stars.....

[saggs]

u cant send informations through "quantum entanglement"
You are talking about the EPR paradox that was described by.. eh Albert Einstein

Not yet, we can't send info, but given a few hundred or thousand years and I bet humanity would figure it out.

Nope, not what I'm talking about.  Einstein did not agree with entanglement theory, but later experiments proved him wrong.

   shocking I know, but yup... Einstein was wrong about a few things.  He was the greatest mind in his field in his time, but he was not infallible.

Read the link I posted before, or better yet read the guys book.

[Gh0stFT]

Tyrannis,

think this way, we humans travel to the next planet, would we act the way you describe it?
Keep it secret, just talk to Team A ?
why? there is no logic behind.
Think about it...

i think different, a real contact would not be a coverup,
it would be something wonderfull, a chance, an eye opener or something this way,
but years later this could end up in diffrerences, like it happen here on the earth,
and lead to not so wonderfull ends

[Tyrannis]

Tyrannis,

think this way, we humans travel to the next planet, would we act the way you describe it?
Keep it secret, just talk to Team A ?
why? there is no logic behind.
Think about it...

i think different, a real contact would not be a coverup,
it would be something wonderfull, a chance, an eye opener or something this way,
but years later this could end up in diffrerences, like it happen here on the earth,
and lead to not so wonderfull ends

ive allready stated a reason why they wouldnt want us to "discover" them.they could possable have lot of something we vitaly need on earth, and look history what happens when one colony of ppl had something another colony needed? the other colony pretty much wipes the other out. in order to get what they need. that would give the other "kind" reason to not want to be publicly discovered, there afraid we'd try to wipe them out. all they have to do is look at human history to find out what would happen to them.

[moot]

129 LY volume, all of it (for argument's sake) lit up with our radiation for 100 years.  That's a sphere volume of 129 LY inside a galaxy that's about 2,000 LY thick in the disc area (16,000 LY at central bulge) and 100,000 LY diameter.  And an illumination period of 100 years out of the galaxy's roughly 10 billion years of age.  And a means of communication that's just one out of at least as many means of communication as we know.. Assuming no other fractional factors (e.g. our emissions obstructed somehow), that we haven't heard anything ourselves (only 1/2 the equation of human-alien contact) is no guarantee that there's no life or intelligent life out there.

[DERK13]

i think there really is a thing called the men in black and that some ppl are really aliens in suits that look like ppl. and same goes for the sr71 i think its reverse engineered from alien ships, i mean cmon plane goes mach 3 and there isnt even color TV yet. bet my neighbors are aliens too they creepy or some ppl who work at walmart.

[Gh0stFT]

129 LY volume, all of it (for argument's sake) lit up with our radiation for 100 years.  That's a sphere volume of 129 LY inside a galaxy that's about 2,000 LY thick in the disc area (16,000 LY at central bulge) and 100,000 LY diameter.  And an illumination period of 100 years out of the galaxy's roughly 10 billion years of age.  And a means of communication that's just one out of at least as many means of communication as we know.. Assuming no other fractional factors (e.g. our emissions obstructed somehow), that we haven't heard anything ourselves (only 1/2 the equation of human-alien contact) is no guarantee that there's no life or intelligent life out there.

the same thing works the other way around, no guarantee that there's life or intelligent life out there,
it would be equal, but since we dont have contact yet, no life gets an additional point and wins, at least today

[Dichotomy]

i think there really is a thing called the men in black and that some ppl are really aliens in suits that look like ppl. and same goes for the sr71 i think its reverse engineered from alien ships, i mean cmon plane goes mach 3 and there isnt even color TV yet. bet my neighbors are aliens too they creepy or some ppl who work at walmart.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[Larry]

ive allready stated a reason why they wouldnt want us to "discover" them.they could possable have lot of something we vitaly need on earth, and look history what happens when one colony of ppl had something another colony needed? the other colony pretty much wipes the other out. in order to get what they need. that would give the other "kind" reason to not want to be publicly discovered, there afraid we'd try to wipe them out. all they have to do is look at human history to find out what would happen to them.

Is this kid serious?

[saggs]

the same thing works the other way around, no guarantee that there's life or intelligent life out there,
it would be equal, but since we dont have contact yet, no life gets an additional point and wins, at least today

There are no guarantees, but the statistical evidence greatly favors one side.

[Meatwad]

i think there really is a thing called the men in black and that some ppl are really aliens in suits that look like ppl. and same goes for the sr71 i think its reverse engineered from alien ships, i mean cmon plane goes mach 3 and there isnt even color TV yet. bet my neighbors are aliens too they creepy or some ppl who work at walmart.

Sugar is bad

[ink]

Saggs~no never heard of him or his theory.....what I typed,was what I got from reading the Bible.

[bravoa8]

Someday star wars reality...

[Melvin]

Two things happened in close succession this last summer (2010).

1. The United Nations appointed a female Doctor from Malaysia to be the person that spearheads the first contact. I can't remember her name. I'll Google it. Here it is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315336/United-Nations-appoint-space-ambassador-act-contact-aliens-visiting-Earth.html

2. Something else happened within weeks of #1, only problem is that I can't remember what it was. I do remember thinking to myself, "Holy crap!"

They must have gotten me with the little flashy thingy. (Neurolizer?)

I'm stocking up on tin hats, I recommend you all do the same.

[Tyrannis]

Two things happened in close succession this last summer (2010).

1. The United Nations appointed a female Doctor from Malaysia to be the person that spearheads the first contact. I can't remember her name. I'll Google it. Here it is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315336/United-Nations-appoint-space-ambassador-act-contact-aliens-visiting-Earth.html

2. Something else happened within weeks of #1, only problem is that I can't remember what it was. I do remember thinking to myself, "Holy crap!"

They must have gotten me with the little flashy thingy. (Neurolizer?)

I'm stocking up on tin hats, I recommend you all do the same.

they discovered that new planet that could possably contain life?

[moot]

the same thing works the other way around, no guarantee that there's life or intelligent life out there,
it would be equal, but since we dont have contact yet, no life gets an additional point and wins, at least today

Yes, that's what I was saying. You can't nearly make absolute negative statement yet, like you did above. Unless you meant strictly within that 129 LY sphere, that we're alone without a doubt..

That we're definitely the first is still less certain.  It took us as long as it did to get where we are today, but that, neither, is guarantee that there's no other life or intelligent life out there.  All it takes is for our physics to have missed some fundamental thing for all our assumptions about communication or what the signatures of life are, to be wrong and with them all our estimations and assessments of what we've seen about the universe from over here.

Even in a fairly anthropomorphic premise, that some other intelligence needed as long as we did to evolve to our present stage, there's still plenty of leeway for them to be thousands, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years ahead of us.  What would humans from that far back in the past think of our technology or philosophies?  Indistinguishable from magic in more than a few cases.  What about developments centuries or thousands of years, or tens or hundreds of thousands of years further into the future?  Even to us the odds are good that we'd find them alien in all but name, if we even managed to notice them - what if our universe is just one small bubble on a vast multiverse tree?  What if the world's just a hologram?  And so on.  The only thing that matches the vertiginous scale of the universe, it so large it even has such a thing as an observable horizon, is the mind bending implications for such a thing as an ever-growing grasp of the laws of nature, forever uprooting and rewriting our "laws" of physics and allowing possibilities so vast that even our most eccentric and most holistic contemporary perspectives are barely even specs of dust in comparison.