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True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« on: February 07, 2011, 03:46:22 PM »
Specifications (L-5):
        Engine: One 185-hp Lycoming O-435-1 flat-six piston engine
        Weight: Empty 1,550 lbs., Max Takeoff 2,020 lbs.
        Wing Span: 34ft. 0in.
        Length: 24ft. 1in.
        Height: 7ft. 11in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed: 130 mph
            Ceiling: 15,800 ft.
            Range: 360 miles
        Armament: None

Number Built:  3,590



Ok the reason why I ask for this is because at times I will spot ground vehicles for the diehard GV'r and at times when in slow moving plane such as the spit or f6f you still go too fast. So is there any way to get a specific spotter plane for this purpose? According to http://www.warbirdalley.com/l5.htm that was the main purpose of this multi purpose plane.

Also here is more info taken from the http://avia-dejavu.net/eelde1965.htm website

The Stinson L-5 Sentinel is a three-seat single engine high wing light aircraft used by the military as air observation post, aerial ambulance, and in other roles. The Sinson L-5 Sentinel, also known as the "Flying Jeep", was basicaly the militairy version of the Stinson 105 Voyager. Development of the Stinson 105 Voyager started in the late 1930's. Stinson Aircraft designed the Model 105 (also designated HW-75) and the type certificate was issued on 20 May 1939. A total of 277 airframes of the (1939) Model 105 (HW-75) with a 75 hp Continental A-75-3 engine and 260 airframes of the (1940) Model 105 (HW-80) powered by a 80 hp Continental A-80-6 engine were built. The next development of the 105 was the Model 10 Voyager, with wider cabin, many detail changes and a 80 hp Continental A-80 engine. In 1941, six airframes of this Model 10 equipped with a 80 hp Lycoming O-170-1 four-cylinder engine were tested by the U.S. Army under the designation YO-54. Testing was successful as the U.S. Army signed a contract for 1,731 airframes, first designated the Stinson O-62. The O-62 was equipped with a 185 hp Lycoming O-435-1 six-cylinder engine. In April 1942, the designation "O" for Observation was changed to "L" for Liaison and the Stinson O-62 became the Stinson L-5 Sentinel. Stinson delivered more than 3,590 of the L-5 Sentinel between 1942 and 1945 under a variety of designations: the L-5A was a modified L-5 with an improved electrical system; the L-5B had a deeper fuselage to carry a stretcher; the L-5C was equipped with a reconnaissance camera; the L-5E had improved control surfaces; and the L-5G had a more powerful engine. The early models of the L-5 can be recognized by the slender aft fuselage section and rear window. About 1800 airframes of this model were built. The L-5B and up models feature a deeper rear fuselage. These models were built from 1943-1945. The Stinson L-5 variants served during World War II not only with the U.S.Army Air Corps but also with the U.S. Navy (as OY-1 and OY-2) and the British Royal Air Force. The production of the Stinson L-5 was closed down after the war end in 1945. In the late 1930's, when development of the Model 105 started, Stinson Aircraft was actual the Stinson Aircraft Division of the Aviation Manufacturing Corporation.

Now with that said I know people will say that if you take one up to spot for the gvrs you will be shot down because of the slower plane and no armament. If so then let the pilot who takes it up take that chance.

Thoughts??
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 04:05:27 PM »
Try a D3A.  Excruciatingly slow and tons of loitering time.  And it can defend itself, as well as carry a 250 kilo bomb.  What's not to love?
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 04:14:19 PM »
I understand what you are saying cal but just to have the true obserrvation ac would be a different idea. We have the jeep which doesn't do much and is hard to spot with on the ground, it was just something I saw that was missing to a point in the game. :rock
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 05:10:51 PM »
A Jeep carries troops, which is a valuable GV used in base capture. What you are requesting for is a plane that is completely worthless and has no use whatsoever in game. This aircraft would be nothing more than a waste of time and resources on HTC's end.

-1 for this wish.
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 07:35:13 PM »
I understand what you are saying cal but just to have the true obserrvation ac would be a different idea. We have the jeep which doesn't do much and is hard to spot with on the ground, it was just something I saw that was missing to a point in the game. :rock

+1, with this caveat: It is available from the hanger on the VBase, and not restricted to the airfields. Let it spawn from the large hanger off the main pad on the VBase, for aerial spotting for GVs where the nearest airfield is a good distance away (such as some of those remote islands where there are only a couple of VBases and no airfields on some maps).
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 08:01:56 PM »
I have no problem spotting GVs in any plane, I even done it in a B-17 a few times.
If you want something slow with good visibility take an I-16, but keep in mind if you stay slow over a GV battle someone will eventually hit you with their main gun.
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 08:11:45 PM »
+1, with this caveat: It is available from the hanger on the VBase, and not restricted to the airfields. Let it spawn from the large hanger off the main pad on the VBase, for aerial spotting for GVs where the nearest airfield is a good distance away (such as some of those remote islands where there are only a couple of VBases and no airfields on some maps).

This might not be a bad idea.
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2011, 08:28:31 PM »
I like marking gv's with my il2.  the 37 mm marking round make an excellet explosion when hitting next to a gv.  your idea is cool, but how will the l-5 mark the incoming gv's, other than saying "hey over here, off my left wing"  :D.  where as the il2 you can say "hey see that explosion, that's where the tank was ".


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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2011, 09:39:21 PM »
I like marking gv's with my il2.  the 37 mm marking round make an excellet explosion when hitting next to a gv.  your idea is cool, but how will the l-5 mark the incoming gv's, other than saying "hey over here, off my left wing"  :D.  where as the il2 you can say "hey see that explosion, that's where the tank was ".


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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2011, 11:11:25 PM »
Ok here are some counter points

1. The decription of the bird says it the jeep of the air. I say let it be like the jeep and bring a max of 2 supplys or 2 troops to a town. Consider the town needs a total of 2 troops to finish taking it. Which would be harder to spot? A c47 or a 3 seater air craft? Which would be quicker to a gv in need of supplies a plane or a jeep? Yes I. Kbow you can do the same with the goon but if you have the supplies on board while you are spotting gvs it would have multi porpose roles.

2. Spotting gvs with it. Hitech already has the coading for smoke shells from gvs, instead of arming it with regular ammo load it with smoke bombs. There would be no damage inflicted to the gvs but it clearly marks where one might be.

Ok now I have replied please remember they did use these types of planesx for real in ww2 and are we not trying for realism here?

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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 11:27:44 PM »
If an army cooperation aircraft were to be added to AH, I would much rather see the Fiesler Storch or Fw189 Uhu.
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 12:36:40 AM »

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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 12:04:23 PM »
+1 for a recon bird of any type.  :aok and country
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 04:21:04 PM »
-1 to troops and supplies in this aircraft.
+1 to idea of having it take off a V-base. Here's a solution to the "spotting" debate:

You see an enemy GV, you look at it and press "spot" command. Very similar to "check six" command. GV tag is now visible to all friendly GVs on ground. They see icon through trees, distance and tank type. Spot lasts for a certain time or disappears when the spotter aircraft is down.
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Re: True Observation Plane: Stinson L-5 Sentinel
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 11:32:41 AM »
I think the fieseler storch or westland lysander would be a better choice.  The storch was incredible.
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