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Offline Pigslilspaz

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Short Stirling
« on: February 05, 2011, 03:17:27 AM »
Enough Said.  :noid

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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 03:53:20 AM »
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 04:22:25 AM »
Not enough said.  Why the Stirling?  What would it bring to the table?  What were it's faults.  There was a reason it was not preferred as a bomber and was used to pull gliders. 

Do you know the answers to those questions?  If you are going to make a sale, tell us why it would be worth the time and effort?
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 05:37:17 AM »
 Why the Stirling?  What would it bring to the table?  

it should fly low and It is BIG! Easier to hit.  :t

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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 07:17:31 AM »
Big, packs alot of bombs, and looks awesome
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 02:19:37 PM »
Not enough said.  Why the Stirling?  What would it bring to the table?  What were it's faults.  There was a reason it was not preferred as a bomber and was used to pull gliders. 

Do you know the answers to those questions?  If you are going to make a sale, tell us why it would be worth the time and effort?


Look in my 5+ other threads for the Stirling, it's all there. Also, planes shouldn't have to need to bring something to the table to be implemented. Noone asks bar for info/importance when he mentions the "you know what" (not mentioning it's name because then he'll be in here in five minutes tops.

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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 02:23:04 PM »
But it isn't here.............? 


Look in my 5+ other threads for the Stirling, it's all there. Also, planes shouldn't have to need to bring something to the table to be implemented. Noone asks bar for info/importance when he mentions the "you know what" (not mentioning it's name because then he'll be in here in five minutes tops.
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 02:33:07 PM »
Well..... Technically speaking, BAR's wish is something we don't have, an Allied tank destroyer. 

Now I am all for the not-so-Short Sterling, but when it comes to these people, no, no wait, savages on the BBS, we gotta make sure not to give them anything to slap ya back with.   :cheers:
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 03:05:37 PM »
A Wellington Mk I or Mk III would be 1) more representative of RAF Bomber Command prior to the Lancaster/Halifax, 2) less work to add and 3) work in settings where we currently lack an RAF bomber.

I'd like the Wellington B.Mk III.  Built using a tough, geodesic construction, defended by eight .303s, two in the nose turret, one in each beam and four in the tail turret.  It carried 4,500lbs, so a useful war load in the Early War arena and settings.  With a top speed of about 240mph it would also be interceptable by early war Luftwaffe fighters, something the Boston Mk III really isn't.

I advocate adding the Mk III instead of the Mk IC due to the quad .303 turret.  I don't think a 240mph bomber with only two .303s in the tail would be viable, gameplaywise, even against Bf109Es, Bf109Fs and Bf110Cs.

Direct hit from flak:

According to the note, this bomber was hit before it reached its target, despite the damage it completed its run and returned home to a safe landing.  The tail gunner, obviously, didn't make it.  After completing the bomb run they found they could not close the bomb bay doors due to a loss of hydraulic power.
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2011, 03:17:53 PM »

Look in my 5+ other threads for the Stirling, it's all there. Also, planes shouldn't have to need to bring something to the table to be implemented. Noone asks bar for info/importance when he mentions the "you know what" (not mentioning it's name because then he'll be in here in five minutes tops.

So you are figuring if you say it enough times it will make a difference?

The Defiant "looks cool" to some folks too.  Doesn't mean it was a mistake in combat.  If you are going to push for another four engine RAF bomber, the Halifax is a far better choice.  The radial engined Lancaster would be a better choice then the Stirling too.
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 04:09:10 PM »
hmm that big with less of a wing span then a lancaster, that seems like a climbing nightmare
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 04:29:38 PM »
Look into it farther young Mirage...............  The span has far less to do with it than the ___________________.

hmm that big with less of a wing span then a lancaster, that seems like a climbing nightmare

And besides, she only gets to about 18,000 ft.  Thick wings caused a super low service ceiling. 
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 04:50:36 PM »
I will have to side with Karnak.  HOWEVER, if the Stirling got added before the Wellington, I would NOT complain one bit.  I'm all for the addition of more bombers. :aok  NOW, if only we could get more strategic targets to hit with them.... :bolt:
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 04:57:34 PM »
PLUS a Trillion!!!

  NOW, if only we could get more strategic targets to hit with them.... :bolt:
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Re: Short Stirling
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 05:33:17 PM »
Look into it farther young Mirage...............  The span has far less to do with it than the ___________________.

And besides, she only gets to about 18,000 ft.  Thick wings caused a super low service ceiling. 
I know I wasnt really thinking wehn I posted, area and loading has more to do with climb then span
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