Sugar: The Bitter Truth

[LLogann]

Since you're so smart.........  

Do you know why sugar is NEEDED?  

Do you know what your body does with multicell sugars?

Do you know what ATP is?

Do you know what muscles use for energy? (calorie burning)

Do you know the differences between any of these sugar structures?  

Or, and this is the real hardcore question, why are you looking for excuses?  

This guy just continues to make excuses for people to use.  Or maybe he lost a bunch of money on Coca-Cola stock?  At the end of the day, he says NOTHING that shouldn't be known already to anybody.  AND HE SAYS THIS AT 28:59.

And he is bending all kinds of small facts with one another to sound really strong.  

SUGAR, in any form, is NEEDED by the body to continue living.  There is no way to move away from this statement.  And just like the first thing I said..........."The bitter part of the truth is really the bitter rationalizing we use to tell ourselves why we want more than we need."  None of this has to do with any part of science, it is simply common sense.  It is simply ourselves not wanting to care about what is good.  

Now stop making excuses for yourself and go drink some diet coke for goodness sake!  The next time you want that Twinkie, think about eating 24 Twinkies all in a row.  I know that would make me a little sick to my stomach.  

But since you ain't all bad, I've got two bits of advice for you.........  Do not eat whole grain/wheat breads.... Eat only Sprouted Grain Breads.  Eat acai berries or get yourself an acai supplement.  

Do those two things, and you'll still be allowed to eat ice cream twice a week!  

[CptTrips]

Since you're so smart.........  

I never said I was smart.  I said I wasn't stupid.  And I said I at least had viewed the vid this thread is about.

You blabbered that all sugars are the same.

That only makes it painfully obvious you didn't bother to view the vid this thread is about. 

The entire point of the lecture was to demonstrate exactly why fructose is NOT the same as glucose.  That was the whole freakin point.  He broke down the step-by-step biochemical metabalization to demonstrate why.

Please.   You're only embarrassing yourself.


(Oh, and this doesn't really concern your type I.  That is a very different situation.)


,
Wab

[LLogann]

Do all fat people ignore words they don't want to hear?  

I made it bigger for you.  



He also said the main ingredient of alcohol is a poison...........  Another half-truth. 

And just so you understand.......  I watched the rest of it.  And stand by what I said. 

[CptTrips]

I my experience there are 3 kinds of people:

1.  There are people who hide their ignorance in shame.
2.  There are people who correct their ignorance through learning.
3.  There are people who prance around and wear their ignorance like a crown.

Wab

[LLogann]

So are you a 3 pretending to be a 2?  Cause you're awful loud right now.  Probably getting all pissy too.  DON'T DO IT..... Don't go for that cupcake, Cupcake.

EDIT: Funny how you leave this sentence below alone:
The bitter part of the truth is really the bitter rationalizing we use to tell ourselves why we want more than we need.

[bj229r]

Anyone notice that nearly NOTHING has good old honest to goodness sugar anymore? Always 'high fructose corn syrup' Wife refuses to eat or drink ANYthing that has that crap...very hard to find such things.

[LLogann]

Part of the problem is glucose is very hard to come by in nature, even table sugar is complex sugars.  Then add the fact that glucose sugar is hard to cook/bake with, plus it doesn't taste quite "correct." 

Anyone notice that nearly NOTHING has good old honest to goodness sugar anymore? Always 'high fructose corn syrup' Wife refuses to eat or drink ANYthing that has that crap...very hard to find such things.

[CptTrips]

Anyone notice that nearly NOTHING has good old honest to goodness sugar anymore? Always 'high fructose corn syrup' Wife refuses to eat or drink ANYthing that has that crap...very hard to find such things.

Its scarey.  That crud is in everything now.  It's in most all store bought breads.  Hambuger patties at fast food.  BBQ sauce. Salad dressings. Spagetti sauces.  

As the vid explains, a big part of the reason for that is its half the price of real sugar.  More profits.


On the other hand, I've recently heard from an esteemed medical expert that ALL sugars are the exact same as natural glucose.  And in fact,  high-fructose-corn syrup is a vital carbohydrate needed by all living things.

,
Wab
  

[LLogann]

Actually dip____, all I said "Sugar..... A needed carb."  Go back and look.  

And that's when your big butt got all peeved.  But it's ok, tomorrow I'll wake up and still be right..... You.... You'll still be looking for somebody else to give you the reason you're a large man.  

On the other hand, I've recently heard from an esteemed medical expert that ALL sugars are the exact same as natural glucose.  And in fact,  high-fructose-corn syrup is a vital carbohydrate needed by all living things.

Oh crap, where did my pole go? 



Maybe I ate it!!!

[CptTrips]

Actually dip____, all I said "Sugar..... A needed carb."  Go back and look.   

And that's when your big butt got all peeved.  But it's ok, tomorrow I'll wake up and still be right..... You.... You'll still be looking for somebody else to give you the reason you're a large man. 

Are you saying fructose and sucrose are need for life?

Keep prancing.

[LLogann]

Are you saying sugar is not needed for life?  

Are you saying fructose and sucrose are need for life?

Sugar......................  A needed carb.  


EDIT: Funny how you leave this sentence below alone:
The bitter part of the truth is really the bitter rationalizing we use to tell ourselves why we want more than we need.



Although I am reading this great little book about the Atkins Diet.............  It's called Atkins for Type 1's.  

Doesn't really make sense though.  

Keep prancing.

ACTUALLY....  Let me get this straight.... You're saying it has nothing to do with you eating too much that makes you fat?    It is all the sugar makers fault?  Go find a lawyer with that one dookie.

[CptTrips]

Are you saying sugar is not needed for life?  
Keep prancing.

A small amount if glucose is still needed.  However the body can largely function just fine on ketones.  If my understanding is correct.


(And I noticed you edited out your earlier statement that all sugars where the same and the shape of their molocule didn't matter.  You must have done that after actually WATCHING the video that completely proved that not true.  Your learning.  You don't want to admit it, but you are slowing learning something.)(Never mind I found it. I guess you are not learning after all

the different cellular structures of the various sugars play very little role in anything revolving around your diet.

If you stick with that, you obviously didn't watch the vid.  Or are just stupid.)

Now are you saying that fructose and sucrose are needed for life?

[mechanic]

I dunno bout anyone else but I'd pay good money to see a diabetic guy and a fat guy in a boxing match about now  
Maybe you guys could shout 'Sugar sucks' or 'Sugar rocks' as you hit each other? And we need a midget as the referee.
 

[LLogann]

Now you're just lying...... SEE BELOW, you first mentioned the F word.    

Ketones:
Ketosis and ketogenic diets (Atkins) only work if you keep your fat levels high.  So, after about 3 to 4 weeks of ketosis, those people not taking enough fat into themselves will start to suffer bad metabolic changes.  At the same time, high fat intake usually revolves around multiple fat types.  The "good" fat is monounsaturated (found in olive oil, butter, almonds), than polyunsaturated, and the rest get bad bad bad and fast.  So with a high fat diet, your probably only getting 20% "good" fat.  So now you're losing weight, but your bad cholesterol is shooting through the roof, and you are still dead!!!

A small amount if glucose is still needed.  However the body can largely function just fine on ketones.  If my understanding is correct.


(And I noticed you edited out your earlier statement that all sugars where the same and the shape of their molocule didn't matter.  You must have done that after actually WATCHING the video that completely proved that not true.  Your learning.  You don't want to admit it, but you are slowing learning something.)

Are you refering to Fructose and Sucrose?  Or are you refering to Glucose?

Can you link me to research showing that Fructose and Sucrose are needed carbohydrates?

Now are you saying that fructose and sucrose are needed for life? No dip____, but you seemingly are. 

And if I actually said what you are lying about, why would you ask this question below it?

[CptTrips]

I dunno bout anyone else but I'd pay good money to see a diabetic guy and a fat guy in a boxing match about now  
Maybe you guys could shout 'Sugar sucks' or 'Sugar rocks' as you hit each other? And we need a midget as the referee.
 

LoL.  

"Lard vs Tard"  

If only Howard Cosell were still alive!




Wab