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Offline dirt911

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Firefly
« on: February 09, 2011, 07:54:55 PM »
I still belive its time to drop the price on it, however does anyone know if it has gyros or not? :headscratch:

Still waiting on my 9-12 perked Firefly to. :pray
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 08:18:39 PM »
I dont think it did have gyros.  The firefly basically was the 17lb anti tank gun turned on its side so it would fit into the turret.  With the limited space I dont think it was gyro stablized.  But I will research some more to confirm or deny.

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 08:38:13 PM »
Quote from: BigKev03 on February 09, 2011, 08:18:39 PM
I dont think it did have gyros.  The firefly basically was the 17lb anti tank gun turned on its side so it would fit into the turret.  With the limited space I dont think it was gyro stablized.  But I will research some more to confirm or deny.

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 10:24:26 PM »
Quote from: dirt911 on February 09, 2011, 07:54:55 PM
I still belive its time to drop the price on it, however does anyone know if it has gyros or not? :headscratch:

Still waiting on my 9-12 perked Firefly to. :pray
Panther needs to be perked less IMO
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 10:32:13 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on February 09, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
Panther needs to be perked less IMO


I disagree. It's not getting close to the Tiger's K/D without a reason ...
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 12:39:02 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on February 09, 2011, 10:32:13 PM

I disagree. It's not getting close to the Tiger's K/D without a reason ...

Well seeing as there were about 6000 made it is a little high on the perk price.
Just my opinion.

And the firefly has been completley dscouraged at this point, M4 75 has better armour.
Its gun doesn't perform the way it should.
Its just a big perk pit now.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 12:46:01 PM »
not about how many were made, its about how successfull it is compaired to other GV's in AH
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 12:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Mirage on February 10, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
not about how many were made, its about how successfull it is compaired to other GV's in AH



Ok, well then why is it when I get in it and shoot an M4 76 at 2500 it takes 3 and 4 hits to kill it? (In Panther)


And this is a FIREFLY post not a Panther post I said it before.
"With the panther coming we need a cheap and effective combatant"
And the tank to answer that call is (Spins the wheel) FIREFLY!!!!!!!   :x :x :x :x :x :O :) But problem is its gun is not correctly modeled (I believe according to pyro on another forum post about this very topic) not to mention that it has armour worse than an aluminum can, it also aint to cheap no more.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 01:03:47 PM »
I am not disagreeing with you about making the firefly cheaper, I am saying that the panther should stay the same price
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 01:30:33 PM »
Quote from: dirt911 on February 10, 2011, 12:54:06 PM
But problem is its gun is not correctly modeled (I believe according to pyro on another forum post about this very topic)

Huh?  So this is how these references to apocryphal posts get started.  That must have been in the thread where I stated we would never do a B-29.   Nevermind the fact that it had been listed in the help system as an example of a perk plane since the perk system was first implemented.  :noid

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 01:30:52 PM »
Quote from: Mirage on February 10, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
I am not disagreeing with you about making the firefly cheaper, I am saying that the panther should stay the same price

Im fine with Panther, I think if it was to get dropped I would say a -2 or -3 perks but no more, maybe less just have to play with these perk prices to get them manipulated the way they need to be.

Just like the Firefly price has been played with enough now we can decide what price is best and I say on a high would be 12-13. On a low base 9-12 maybe a 10 base perk price.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 01:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on February 09, 2011, 10:32:13 PM

I disagree. It's not getting close to the Tiger's K/D without a reason ...
I think it should be the same as fire fly, only because fire fly has better gun, but panther has tougher armor
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 01:35:53 PM »
Quote from: Pyro on February 10, 2011, 01:30:33 PM
Huh?  So this is how these references to apocryphal posts get started.  That must have been in the thread where I stated we would never do a B-29.   Nevermind the fact that it had been listed in the help system as an example of a perk plane since the perk system was first implemented.  :noid




Ok my mistake you didn't say THAT but it was on a post about the same as this one:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,301670.0.html


It was stated that the gun was not as lethal as it should be.
And that it was not doing the damage that it should be doing upon a penetration.
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Offline dirt911

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 01:37:54 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on February 10, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
I think it should be the same as fire fly, only because fire fly has better gun, but panther has tougher armor

But Firefly does need a lower price. Panther is just fine like I said, "if it were to be lowered only by 3 or less".
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 01:42:03 PM »
Quote from: dirt911 on February 10, 2011, 01:35:53 PM

Ok my mistake you didn't say THAT but it was on a post about the same as this one:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,301670.0.html


It was stated that the gun was not as lethal as it should be.
And that it was not doing the damage that it should be doing upon a penetration.

There is no "but"
The only thing Pyro ever said in that thread "It's APBC". He never made any comment on the gun's performance.
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