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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 03:46:08 PM »
but with proximity fuses too( because the 88 did have them),

Proximity fuzed rounds were an Allied technological advancement, the Germans or any other Axis country didn't have the technology.

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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 05:14:30 PM »
+1 sure, why not

as long as they're properly modelled they wont really bother anyone :D
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 05:21:57 PM »
+1 sure, why not

as long as they're properly modelled they wont really bother anyone :D

People seem to forgot the towns at one time used to have puffy acks and were removed due to a large outcry from a segment of the community.

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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 05:30:44 PM »
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 05:33:06 PM »
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There was nothing wrong with their modeling when we had them.


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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 05:34:10 PM »
Why not tie the fuse setting to the throttle? I doubt that would be in use while you're gunning.

THIS would work out nicely.  :aok  I honestly didn't think about the throttle being used for this.  :o  You could use the Manifold throttle for 1000 increments and the RPM for 100 increments.  This would work for those who use the keyboard for throttle.  Those of you who use an actual throttle, you would be able to do finer adjustments and more quickly but wouldn't be much better vs someone using the keyboard.

I only tossed out how many per field just as an idea.  While I honestly don't think the Med/Small fields and the V-base would actually have 88's, Ports and Large fields are a possibility considering their value/size.  If they were to bring back zone bases, then 88's at those fields should probably be mandatory.
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 05:37:37 PM »
There was nothing wrong with their modeling when we had them.

what were they modelled on?
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 07:42:56 PM »
what were they modelled on?

A computer most likely, but with Hitech he could probably coad a game with an abacus.


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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 07:49:24 PM »
Being able to turn the 5" guns proximity fuses on and off in the Arena settings might make early war settings more viable.  Attacking into that stuff is really nasty in B5Ns and F4Fs.
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2011, 01:54:30 AM »
People seem to forgot the towns at one time used to have puffy acks and were removed due to a large outcry from a segment of the community.

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I thought they were removed, and replaced with more of what we have now, because they were mostly ineffective.
I really want to say "useless" but....


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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2011, 09:45:36 PM »
+1
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2011, 05:53:46 PM »
After a some thinking, the manned ack version of this weapon shouldn't be able to be used as AAA and AT, AAA only.  This would be the best option.

However, if they were to make a "gv" version of it, towed 88mm, then the option to up it as an AAA or AT version would be do-able.  When you select rounds like you do on a tank, it would have the AAA ammo then the AP/HE ammo.  This would be more accurate, though I am uncertain if they had HE rounds when deployed in the AT role.  I wouldn't think they would not have the option to use them but those of you who have access to books on the weapon, you would be able to say one way or the other.  The downside to this would be to get someone to up a SdK to tow you to a spot.

The AAA version would probably see more use than the AT version since it's a lot quicker to up a tank vs having someone up a SdK to tow you when it comes to combating gv's.  However, if you expect a GV attack, having the 88's deployed in the AT role could be useful.  Another downside to the towed 88 is that it wouldn't take much to knock it out.  1 or 2 HE rounds from a tank, or a strafe from a plane.  There is no protection for the crew after all.  A well placed 88 will do a lot of damage however, and MAY be harder to spot vs a tank.

When it comes to the AAA version, well, yeah.  You are likely to get strafed just like any other ack gun.  BUT, you have the ability to down planes 3k and up with the puffy of death. :devil  "Up a fighter.  It's quicker...".  Maybe, maybe not.  Maybe I don't wish to up a fighter at the moment.  However, if there are deployed 88's helping guard the base, then the fighters that do up can pay more attention to other enemy fighters and hunt for goons, or at the very least, the 88's help the fighters knock out the bombers (not many pilots will be able to down all the bombers before they reach their target after all).  Of course, if the 88 crews killshoot themselves, then it's probably their fault.  Firing at bombers when friendlies are making their passes....yeah.  If you take the risk, you may end up paying for it. :bhead :lol

It's up in the air with the towed 88, but the point is there is nothing wrong with having the option to use it.  Something for later on down the line, that much is obvious. :aok

As for the Manned Ack version, my previous posts about it (minus the AT part of course), could be do-able.
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2011, 06:05:11 PM »
No. I don't want these manned gun tards using more powerful weapons. And MANaWAR will be using this no doubt
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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 12:59:26 AM »
iposted something similer to this in the vultch thread.


have a 88mm flak camp hidden somewheres around the base.

with operational manned flak.


and it would only reveal itself when all ack on field was gone. then it would become mannable.

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Re: 88mm FLaK 18/36/37
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 01:52:50 AM »
I don't care about any 88 pro or con, just dont put them in place of the 37mm's, as I am a 37mm fieldguntard.

We can already hit bombers flying at ~14000ft AGL with the 37's.
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