88mm FLaK 18/36/37

[Tazz69]

It would be great if we could have 2 or 3 88mm FLaK's around some bases and towns (possibly around the Large airfields). We all know that it was a very widely used gun produced by the Germans during the war and had a very important role on all fronts as a versatile weapon used for antiaircraft and antitank work. I think it would be a great addition to the defence of towns or air bases. We could lose 2 or 3 37mm AA guns and replace them with the 88's. With only a couple of them at a base, it would be enough to make some flyer's to think twice about low vulching, but with only a couple of them there, not a large enough ack-ack screen to shoot down all the income aircraft. IMHO, I just think that HTC should consider the addition of this weapon, whether it be used as a stationary weapon or mobile weapon on the existing Tiger chassis ( which it was applied on). Just something to think about comrades.
 

Tazz69, CO
69th FG ~Rampant Lions~
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[Tyrannis]

iposted something similer to this in the vultch thread.


have a 88mm flak camp hidden somewheres around the base.

with operational manned flak.


and it would only reveal itself when all ack on field was gone. then it would become mannable.

[Yossarian]

iposted something similer to this in the vultch thread.


have a 88mm flak camp hidden somewheres around the base.

with operational manned flak.


and it would only reveal itself when all ack on field was gone. then it would become mannable.

I like this idea...perhaps this would work as an extension of it:

Have several indestructible 'tents' on every field.  When all the manned ack is down, then one of these tents becomes the 88mm flak gun (or maybe it would only change when someone got in it).  Perhaps the person who was in the last manned ack could be automatically transferred to the 88mm.

[AWwrgwy]

A. No proximity shells.

B. What is the minimum effective range of the 88?

You know we used to have Puffy Ack at airbases? You just flew under it.

I think most of the "I want 88 AAA" wishes envision 5" cv group AAA on land. I don't think it would be close.

+1/-1  (neutrality)


wrongway

[LLogann]

No, it wouldn't.......  Primarily because of the size difference.   

I think most of the "I want 88 AAA" wishes envision 5" cv group AAA on land. I don't think it would be close.

[Tazz69]

Well, I would say that it should be almost like the 5 inchers on the cv, but with proximity fuses too( because the 88 did have them), but the 88 gun would be used more for the high level bombers that hit a base. As it is right now, we have plenty of inaccurate 37mm guns which are only effective to 6000 and under. The 88 ack ack would help by keeping those bombers that are above that feeling uncomfortable over the target. Like I said, it's just an idea I'm sure others have wished for. I think with even 2 manable 88's at a base, even if its only the large bases, because HTC added the 17 pounders to the V bases, that we should have more defence at an airfield.

[Lusche]

Well, I would say that it should be almost like the 5 inchers on the cv, but with proximity fuses too( because the 88 did have them),

No they did not have proximity fuses.

[Volron]

The 88mm FlaK gunners however, were very good at their task.  Many an Allied Bomber fell victim to the most feared weapon to them.  You can at least see planes coming AND you can shoot back at them.  There is no defense against flak.

If they were to add the 88mm FlaK, you can bet I'd be using it as often as I could.

[AWwrgwy]

The 88mm FlaK gunners however, were very good at their task.  Many an Allied Bomber fell victim to the most feared weapon to them.  You can at least see planes coming AND you can shoot back at them.  There is no defense against flak.

If they were to add the 88mm FlaK, you can bet I'd be using it as often as I could.

Yes. You concentrated the fire of hundreds of guns in a box in front of the Allied bombers for them to fly through.

You know where they are going and how high they are....

It was most feared for the reason you stated. You couldn't shoot back.

But like I mentioned, the wish is for large caliber proximity fuzed AAA more than it is for the Flak 88.


wrongway

[LLogann]

This only proves the Germans were better at aiming than we were! 

Yes. You concentrated the fire of hundreds of guns in a box in front of the Allied bombers for them to fly through.

You know where they are going and how high they are....

It was most feared for the reason you stated. You couldn't shoot back.

But like I mentioned, the wish is for large caliber proximity fuzed AAA more than it is for the Flak 88.


wrongway

[Wayout]

This only proves the Germans were better at aiming than we were! 

Maybe because they had a lot more practice.   

[Volron]

Yes. You concentrated the fire of hundreds of guns in a box in front of the Allied bombers for them to fly through.

You know where they are going and how high they are....

It was most feared for the reason you stated. You couldn't shoot back.

But like I mentioned, the wish is for large caliber proximity fuzed AAA more than it is for the Flak 88.


wrongway

I would prefer the 88mm FlaK, and not proximity fuzed.  What if you had to "dial" in the alt of the enemy bombers?  Like a .set 10000 or .alt 10000.  At which point, all shots you make will detonate at 10000 or between 9500 - 10500.  Or maybe a little alt meter on the gun (for game-play reasons) of which you would click on the alt you wish the round to detonate at, then fire.  Click on a slightly different alt, then fire your next shot.  They would have the same alt restriction as our regular auto puffy has, 3k min alt over target.  Maybe 1-2 88's at a Port, 4 at a large field, 2 at a medium field, 1 at a V-base/small field (if at all).  Now, the question is, would they be allowed to be used in an AT role?  If so, you would just hit the backspace key (like on the 5" guns) to switch between AT and AA mode.

Hows this for a basic idea on their use?

[AWwrgwy]

I would prefer the 88mm FlaK, and not proximity fuzed.  What if you had to "dial" in the alt of the enemy bombers?  Like a .set 10000 or .alt 10000.  At which point, all shots you make will detonate at 10000 or between 9500 - 10500.  Or maybe a little alt meter on the gun (for game-play reasons) of which you would click on the alt you wish the round to detonate at, then fire.  Click on a slightly different alt, then fire your next shot.  They would have the same alt restriction as our regular auto puffy has, 3k min alt over target.  Maybe 1-2 88's at a Port, 4 at a large field, 2 at a medium field, 1 at a V-base/small field (if at all).  Now, the question is, would they be allowed to be used in an AT role?  If so, you would just hit the backspace key (like on the 5" guns) to switch between AT and AA mode.

Hows this for a basic idea on their use?

Works for me, but I have to get a quorum from the committee. I'm still skeptical that any gun that large would be used on an airfield as airfield defense.

I would have rather seen 88's a AT guns than 17pdr anyhow.

It's just, generally, people who ask for 88s envision themselves blasting away at vulchers below 2000 feet and expect positive results.


wrongway

[Tazz69]

+100000000 for Volron's idea!! Thats exactly what I'm talking about. I think that would work perfect.

[Beefcake]

Why not tie the fuse setting to the throttle? I doubt that would be in use while you're gunning.