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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Worst cars ever made
« Reply #300 on: February 18, 2011, 10:06:13 PM »
Nop, running an IT department from a trading firm.  Nothing to do with cars.  But I have been leasing for the past 15 years and never encountered these things mentioned here.
the reason i'm asking is because i just went through a "must get a new car" crisis...looked at lease options for volkswagon, toyota, bmw, gm, ford, nissan, chrysler, hyundai...and i read every single page of the lease agreements...and based on my co workers lease agreement that i had read thoroughly, i asked specific questions...it depends on the leasing company...factory lease vs 3rd party lease...volkswagon and bmw were the worst lease agreements i looked at...so many loopholes full of "gotchas", it actually cost extra to keep from getting charged additional fees when the lease ended...one dealer was using a 3rd party leasing company which had the highest rates but the best end of lease terms.

after 2 months of searching...what you state as absolute fact does not apply to all leases at least at the dealerships i went to...i ended up buying a used car instead of a new car buy or lease...
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Re: Worst cars ever made
« Reply #301 on: February 18, 2011, 10:20:14 PM »
the reason i'm asking is because i just went through a "must get a new car" crisis...looked at lease options for volkswagon, toyota, bmw, gm, ford, nissan, chrysler, hyundai...and i read every single page of the lease agreements...and based on my co workers lease agreement that i had read thoroughly, i asked specific questions...it depends on the leasing company...factory lease vs 3rd party lease...volkswagon and bmw were the worst lease agreements i looked at...so many loopholes full of "gotchas", it actually cost extra to keep from getting charged additional fees when the lease ended...one dealer was using a 3rd party leasing company which had the highest rates but the best end of lease terms.

after 2 months of searching...what you state as absolute fact does not apply to all leases at least at the dealerships i went to...i ended up buying a used car instead of a new car buy or lease...

you're better off used sometimes.

 as much as i want a 2012 boss 302, reality dictates i won't be able to afford $40k+ for a car....so i think next year a 2011 gt may be in order.......lime green 5.)L manual tranny, etc......
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Re: Worst cars ever made
« Reply #302 on: February 18, 2011, 10:28:39 PM »
cap what is your opinion on the colorado, canyon, and izusu version.
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« Reply #303 on: February 18, 2011, 10:53:59 PM »
cap what is your opinion on the colorado, canyon, and izusu version.

i've only worked on a couple of colorados, and i like em. my local napa dealer uses them too...and those drivers beat the crap out of them....and as much as i like my fords....the chevys are taking the beating better than the rangers.

 i've not worked on the isizu version of any of the gm's 'cept for the ascender...which is a tahoe in disguise. if that one's any clue...you'd be basically buying a chevy.......which is never bad. even if it's a lumina.
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Re: Worst cars ever made
« Reply #304 on: February 18, 2011, 11:24:12 PM »
BIGRAT.......


i just found this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydykiWKW6fE

motor trend dyno'd a 2011 mustang gt. ford rates the gt at 412 hp. you had asked me once i think if it was flywheel or rear wheel. it's neither.


435hp at the tires.

that would then mean that the boss 302 that they're rating at 440hp would probably be closer to 470 hp.  :devil
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« Reply #305 on: February 18, 2011, 11:55:56 PM »
Gimme the GT350 Commemorative Ed. estimated at a MINIMUM of 550bhp at the wheels (most sources state around 570bhp).   :rock

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« Reply #306 on: February 19, 2011, 01:16:51 AM »
BIGRAT.......


i just found this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydykiWKW6fE

motor trend dyno'd a 2011 mustang gt. ford rates the gt at 412 hp. you had asked me once i think if it was flywheel or rear wheel. it's neither.


435hp at the tires.

that would then mean that the boss 302 that they're rating at 440hp would probably be closer to 470 hp.  :devil


That Mustang looks great, I wish we could buy them over here.

I posted something similar in another thread, but this is our version of the boss.

450hp FPV GT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT7P4wGezT8&feature=related


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« Reply #307 on: February 19, 2011, 04:46:12 AM »
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« Reply #308 on: February 19, 2011, 10:17:03 PM »
I know a guy that has a black cutlass just like that one, it is so clean you could eat off any part of it.

I leased a Prius for cell tower audit work all over the southern states. I drove from Lima,Ohio to Tampa,Fla. When I left the car had 3/4 a tank of fuel, I filled the car up twice on the way to Tampa. Onboard GPS navigation, heated seats, XM radio, and that car had plenty of room. Do not let the size of the Prius on the outside fool you, it's a roomy car. You can lease a new one from LaRiche toyota in findlay,ohio for around $219.00 a month maybe $299.00 max.
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« Reply #309 on: February 20, 2011, 06:38:59 AM »
You can lease a new one from LaRiche toyota in findlay,ohio for around $219.00 a month maybe $299.00 max.

Even if it was free, you'd still have to drive a Prenis. That's a price no man should pay.  :lol
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« Reply #310 on: February 20, 2011, 10:27:09 AM »
prius's main advantage is in stop n go traffic.
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« Reply #311 on: February 20, 2011, 11:08:46 AM »
The Prius I had also has the full JBL sound system, which was kick butt. There's a amp under each seat.
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« Reply #312 on: February 20, 2011, 11:54:14 AM »
the stock infinity sound system that came in my dakota is just fine for me......
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« Reply #313 on: February 20, 2011, 04:25:42 PM »
the stock infinity sound system that came in my dakota is just fine for me......

is that dakota a lease?
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« Reply #314 on: February 20, 2011, 04:44:06 PM »
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