still confused

[hellwolf]

Perhaps a better explantion would be: If someone flys 1 mission and scores 10 kills, then 4 of the 5 elements that make up fighter score will be high.  Only kill points will be low.  If I fly 100 missions, unless Im awesome, then I will be ahead in only 1 of the 5 elements.

To take the golf example again, The number of drives per hole, iron shots and puts per hole, birdies per hour etc will be better over 2 holes than 18.
If the 5 elements are all equally weighted, then its impossible to have a better score the more you play. (super aces excepted)

We all have the odd mission that goes well, if it happens to be your first one then its better (under the scoring system) not to up again.  This just does not make sense.

[The Fugitive]

And golf has a handycap system other wise those that are very good would ALWAYS crush those of us that are not.

The HTC score system is set up to reward players that score well on ALL aspects of the game, as well as all aspects of each part of the game. Below are two players scores The player on the left has a better K/d and K/S, they are even for kills per hour, and hit%, but player 2 has a better Kill points.  All in all these two players are very close. One could have gotten his score in 10 flights, while the other may have 100 flights.  So they are still close in over all "skill" (and I use that word VERY loosely when talking scores). Scores are based on "quality" not "quantity", if it was not it would be like saying a golfer playing 4 rounds should have a better score than one playing one round.



The other side of the coin is the score system can easily by tweaked. Scoring hits with cannon rounds will increase your "kill points" Bailing from your aircraft instead of riding it in increases your K/D. Targeting buffs increases your hit percentage. Like anything else sandbagging and score padding is going to happen. Some people are in this game ONLY to score the best and do what ever it takes to get there. Like in a pool league, or bowling league you have players that sandbag so they can get their handicaps in a place to get ahead of the other teams when they need to. Human nature no longer allows for people to give it 100% all the time. So comparing your score to others is a waste of time unless you KNOW the player your comparing to plays the game the same way you do.

[Lusche]

Bailing from your aircraft instead of riding it in increases your K/D.

It does not. A bail is a "death" for K/D purposes. It only has some influence on your score points.

So comparing your score to others is a waste of time unless you KNOW the player your comparing to plays the game the same way you do.

+1

I often look at other player's score, but not to see if he's a better pilot, but just out of curiosity how he does play the game. To me, it's like a kinda business card showing a player's profile (and only to a much lesser extend his general skill level)

[The Fugitive]

It does not. A bail is a "death" for K/D purposes. It only has some influence on your score points.

No it counts as a bail. Which is why it has that catagory. As to how it effects ranking, I know I bail as soon as my plane can no longer fight. Seeing as that is how I get out of MOST of my fights my K/D would be much lower than it is if they were posted as "deaths" in the K/D.

[Lusche]

No it counts as a bail.

I suggest you take some fighter scores and calculate if it does. You might be surprised

Example: My Score last tour:







K/D Shown 7.95
Kills: 505
I had 17 bails, 8 captured, 37 deaths, 1 disco (=0.5 deaths)

IF bail would not count as death should be  505/(8+37+0,5+1)=10.86
But it is 7.95, which results from 505/(17+8+37+0,5+1)=7.95

[The Fugitive]

I must bow to the ultimate chart man!    I didn't realize that I was getting that GOOD ! 

[Lusche]

I didn't realize that I was getting that GOOD ! 

  

[Flipperk]

For those that say you will enjoy the game much more if you just ignore it, you have to realize that there is two types of players in this game. One is of course the guys who love aviation, the flight characteristics, and the fight. The other player is the competitive one, the one who likes to be the best and tries to "game" the game. Believe it or not, they enjoy the same game as much as anyone else, it is just from a different perspective.

[hitech]

Perhaps a better explantion would be: If someone flys 1 mission and scores 10 kills, then 4 of the 5 elements that make up fighter score will be high.  Only kill points will be low.  If I fly 100 missions, unless Im awesome, then I will be ahead in only 1 of the 5 elements.

To take the golf example again, The number of drives per hole, iron shots and puts per hole, birdies per hour etc will be better over 2 holes than 18.
If the 5 elements are all equally weighted, then its impossible to have a better score the more you play. (super aces excepted)

We all have the odd mission that goes well, if it happens to be your first one then its better (under the scoring system) not to up again.  This just does not make sense.

You seem to be stuck on the 1 mission and do not understand the rank, just because someone is good in 4 and bad in 1 does not mean they will rank well. If a person only flies 1 mission their point category will be well toward the bottom and  hence not rank very well. This is the same as why your hit % is making your overall rank so bad.

Look at the example luche just posted 215 sorties. And #4 rank. His rank total is around 250, if you fly only one sortie, even if you were number 1 in 4 of the categorizes, your point rank would be 2000 or more by the end of the tour and hence your rank total/sum would be 2004 or more.

HiTech

[Coronado]

SCORE......RANK....  PFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
As long as i keep a fighter and GV perk level at 500, I'm happy.

[hellwolf]

Sorry to carry on with this but wont be happy until I understand this system!!

If as you tell me, your fighter rank is made up of your combined rank in 5 different equally weighted catergories then please explain how ie, what mathmatical system You use.

I ranked in the 5 catergories #475, #583,#646,#1632,#208.  Therefore according to your posts, to reveal my overall rank I should add these ranks together and divide by 5.  This would give me a rank of #708, however my actual rank is #532.

To take another (one of the top players scores)  #27,#50,#312,#161,#42  rank should be #118, but is ranked #21.

My maths isnt great but I still cant work out how you arrive at this number!!

My suspicion is that the 5 catergories are NOT equally weighted. 

[Lusche]

Sorry to carry on with this but wont be happy until I understand this system!!

If as you tell me, your fighter rank is made up of your combined rank in 5 different equally weighted catergories then please explain how ie, what mathmatical system You use.

I ranked in the 5 catergories #475, #583,#646,#1632,#208.  Therefore according to your posts, to reveal my overall rank I should add these ranks together and divide by 5.  This would give me a rank of #708, however my actual rank is #532.

You are thinking too complicated. It's much easier.

You get a rank number in all sub-categories.  like #475, #583,#646,#1632,#208. These rank numbers are simply added. Total number = 3544.
This is done for every player. The player with lowest total sum is #1.  The player with second lowest sum is #2, and so on. All players that have a sum of less than your 3544 are ranked better than you. All with a higher sum are ranked worse. All sub categories are weighed the same.

Overall rank works the same: Sum of Fighter, attack, Bomber, GV rank. Player with lowest total = #1 overall.


Check the top 10 top ranked players of last tour and do the math

Example for Fighter Rank, Tour 132:

I had #43, #50, #109, #38, #6 = total 246, fighter rank:4

TwinTail had #35, #35, #44, #54, #3 = total 168. That's better than mine, so he had fighter rank 3. The guy with fighter rnak 2 had an even lower sum than TwinTail.

Kazaa had #12, #8, #11, #38, #228  = total 297. Worse than mine so he was #5. And guess what? He was ranked worse than me, because he didn't fly enough fighter sorties. His much better K/D, K/S, K/H didn't help him. So you can see, we already have what you are asking for

EDIT: ok, to make it even more clear:

[Guppy35]

Just to prove it's just numbers

my K/D flying 51B/D and Spit VIII is 9

My K/D flying 38Gs, 39s and 25Cs is .96


As near as I can tell is that either I suck or I'm not bad depending on what I fly and how

Not much point in worrying about it I figure

[hellwolf]

ty lusche I can sleep tonight.

[Dichotomy]

SO NO MORE WORRYING ABOUT SCORE!!!! 

Get out there and KILL KILL KILL!!! 

Oh and fly AVA...