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Offline thomace

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B-29 flights
« on: February 17, 2011, 04:42:31 PM »
 I can tell there's excitement over the b-29...myself being very excited...just curious as to how we're going to model "realistic" missions...18+ hours...much of it over water...probably not an issue since mechanical issues really aren't modeled...too bad as it seems the 29 had as many engine overheating issues as enemy contact issues...
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 05:03:10 PM »
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probably not an issue since mechanical issues really aren't modeled...too bad as it seems the 29 had as many engine overheating issues as enemy contact issues...

Sure they are, we just don't let disco's reup if we want to model a percentage of mechanical problems  :D
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 09:39:03 PM »
 understood...I talking about stuff like..."temp on number 3 is out of whack...need to RTB"...then have to worry about it overheating for 1000 miles...I'd love it...but...I'm like that...
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 10:14:03 PM »
Quote from: thomace on February 17, 2011, 09:39:03 PM
understood...I talking about stuff like..."temp on number 3 is out of whack...need to RTB"...then have to worry about it overheating for 1000 miles...I'd love it...but...I'm like that...

HTC has never modeled mechanical errors with any other aircraft in the game, it won't be any different for the B-29.
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 11:03:25 PM »
 understood...
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 11:39:41 PM »
 Incendiary bombs??? Buildings in Japan were mostly made out of wood so the first thing LeMay did when he went to the Pacific was change the loadouts to 100lb incendiary's...not very nice that Curtis...but...war ain't nice...
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 11:47:07 PM »
Again, though we have different sized bombs, we don't really have any specialty bombs.  However, this isn't one I would say it out of the realm of possibility sometime in the future. 
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 02:37:44 AM »
War aint nice, but bombing civils with incendiary bombs, killing 100 000s of them in each pass...

Btw, what do you think how large map is needed to fly a 18 hours, or only a 5 hours mission?  ;)
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 03:07:12 AM »
Quote from: Debrody on February 18, 2011, 02:37:44 AM
War aint nice, but bombing civils with incendiary bombs, killing 100 000s of them in each pass...

Btw, what do you think how large map is needed to fly a 18 hours, or only a 5 hours mission?  ;)

I doubt I've done a 5 hour one, but I betcha I've done around a 4 hour before.  Getting Lancs up to ~32k before you even cross into enemy territory, fly to strat, drop and return.  You can get a lot done while you're waiting for Lancs to get up to that altitude.
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 05:29:05 PM »
Quote from: Jayhawk on February 18, 2011, 03:07:12 AM
I doubt I've done a 5 hour one, but I betcha I've done around a 4 hour before.  Getting Lancs up to ~32k before you even cross into enemy territory, fly to strat, drop and return.  You can get a lot done while you're waiting for Lancs to get up to that altitude.

i don't have the patience to do that in 17s

altimeter:

26,500......26,600......26,700.....

"meh, good enough"
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 07:42:48 PM »
Quote from: Wildcat1 on February 18, 2011, 05:29:05 PM
i don't have the patience to do that in 17s

altimeter:

26,520......26,540......26,560.....

"meh, good enough"

Fixed...

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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 09:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Strip on February 18, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
Fixed...

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 :lol yeah, that's actually more like it
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 10:57:54 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on February 18, 2011, 02:37:44 AM
War aint nice, but bombing civils with incendiary bombs, killing 100 000s of them in each pass...

Btw, what do you think how large map is needed to fly a 18 hours, or only a 5 hours mission?  ;)

I get bent out of shape with thinking like this and arguments against the using of the two atom bombs. Do you realize that the Japanese are killing an estimated 250,000 people a month in china by 1944? I think the total loss of Japanese to the raids was under 300,000. Do you take into account the 500,000 casualties the Americans were estimating would be caused in the planned stages of the invasion of Japan? What about the 1 to 2 million estimated Japanese casualties taken in that same invasion? The Japanese fought to the death for outposts, how would they fight for the homeland? Curtis LeMay did the entire world a great service by launching those raids on his own initiative in order to bring this cataclysm to an end and he deserves to be remembered for it.

ok, I'm stepping off my soapbox now.  :furious
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 11:34:15 AM »
What a lot of folks don't know is that the US had decent models for what the casualty rates of a battle would be, based on plenty of examples of the island hopping on the way to Japan, including Okinawa.  The Japanese fighters did not give up, even when faced with overwhelming odds.  The Japanese knew that invasion of the home islands was coming, and they had 600,000 troops stationed in the area where the US invasion with 400,000 troops was to take place.  The fight for Japan would have been a hugely scaled up Okinawa.  The estimate for the entire fight for Japan was that there would be 1 million US casualties and 10 million Japanese casualties.  The way it happened instead, there were not only a lot less US casualties than that, but a lot less Japanese casualties than that.
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Re: B-29 flights
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 01:00:26 PM »
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