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Offline NormH3

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Firearms Training
« on: February 19, 2011, 09:54:38 AM »
I know there are many vets and firearms enthusists here. I'm finally going to persue an interest that I have had for many years and join the ranks of target sport. I want to do it right and do it safely. I'm really not interested in the automatic weapons of today, but more drawn to the Garand, Lee Enfield and older weapons. I am also interested in the proper use of a handgun and would like to become proficient with at least one. I've looked into firearm saftey courses but I also have a few friends that are avid shooters. Curious if there are others that are just starting out, or any suggestions by experienced shooters.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 09:59:36 AM »
If your goal is simply to enjoy target shooting, then I would say there is really only a small amount of basic safety, range etiquette, operation and maintenance training that is really required.  An experienced shooter would probably be more then willing to help you out with that.

If you are thinking along the lines of personal defense, then find the best instructional class you can find in your area. 

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 10:03:33 AM »
If your goal is simply to enjoy target shooting, then I would say there is really only a small amount of basic safety, range etiquette, operation and maintenance training that is really required.  An experienced shooter would probably be more then willing to help you out with that.

If you are thinking along the lines of personal defense, then find the best instructional class you can find in your area. 

I think personal defense will be a goal eventually. Wasn't sure if I should jump in with both feet. Mom didn't raise any heros and I want to approach this with the correct mindset.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 10:10:12 AM »
I think personal defense will be a goal eventually. Wasn't sure if I should jump in with both feet. Mom didn't raise any heros and I want to approach this with the correct mindset.

Then I would suggest find a good class.  Find a good one though, not all instructors are created equal.  Ask around.  If you don't want to get that into it yet, then I would suggest that you make friends with a police officer and ask him to give you some pointers at the range.  He can probably help prevent you from developing some bad habits that most inexperienced shooters have to "unlearn" when they get more serious about personal defense.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 10:41:52 AM »
Warn significant others you are about to be engulfed in a new passion.  Bought my first gun a little over two years ago, own 4 now, bought my girlfriend one for Valentine's day, and am looking at purchasing my first AR rig soon.  It will consume you.  :aok
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 10:50:13 AM »
Warn significant others you are about to be engulfed in a new passion.  Bought my first gun a little over two years ago, own 4 now, bought my girlfriend one for Valentine's day, and am looking at purchasing my first AR rig soon.  It will consume you.  :aok

+1, I've been acquiring firearms for 25 years.  There always seems to be at least one more that I'd like to have.  Lately, I've gotten into black powder.  For fun, I picked up a replica 1777 Charleville Musket.  It's a flintlock, great fun to shoot.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 11:13:18 AM »
Welcome to the club! I bought my first rifle when I turned 18 and have been steadily acquiring them ever since! Prepare to be broke and never have all the ones you want!

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2011, 11:24:15 AM »
Prepare to be broke and never have all the ones you want!

You know, for me it's the ammunition cost that makes the hobby/sport seem expensive, more then the weapons themselves.  Last year, I bought a Sig Mosquito 22LR pistol to satisfy my plinking needs without breaking the bank.  Took  a little effort to get the gun shooting the way it should, but now it is one of my favorite pistols to play around with.

((If anyone has a Sig Mosquito that they are having trouble with, let me know.  The fix is pretty darn easy, I'd be happy to tell you what to do.)) 

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 12:17:17 PM »
2 things to look into.

1.  NRA.  A great number of legit, serious, and responsible gun clubs register with the NRA.  This helps ensure a degree of attention to safety and training standards that are at least within shouting distance of what everyone considers "normal".  Not only that, the NRA is associated with a whole range of shooting competitions suitable for almost anyone with an interest, from plinking with pellets (way way harder than it sounds) to hardcore heavy load blasting.

2.  Local conservation or wildlife groups, surprisingly enough, often own shooting ranges.  Especially in areas where hunting is a normal sort of thing to do, there may be local groups who own ranges that are used for instruction and competition by all the shooting clubs and organizations in the area.

In any case, you probably want to look for gun ranges that are used for competitions and find out what organizations sponsor and sanction those competitions, and get in with the crowd that interests you the most.  I shot standard pistol and air pistol in college, and was planning on continuing via NRA events until I got a real job and ran out of time.  If you're really good and are lucky enough to live in the right area (colorado springs for example), you might get lucky enough to shoot at a USOC (US olympic committee) run facility, with access to their instructors.  My instructor was an olympic bronze medalist.
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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 12:40:53 PM »
Very familiar with the NRA although not a member just yet. If there are any exceptional websites on the subject, besides NRA, I would be interested in knowing about those as well.

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 12:41:14 PM »
I would second what Eagle said. You need to look around at the ranges and see what kind of competitions there are going on. Some of the disciplines lend themselves to good training. Things like silhouette (both rifle and pistol), NRA 3 position, and NRA style pistol competitions rather than the gamey "combat" or "practical" pistol matches.

Talk to experienced shooters and get their input as to what it takes to get involved in their sport. Pick something that does not require TONS of money or specialized equipment so that you can at least compete with reasonable cost equipment.

If you are going into center fire shooting you will probably need to start reloading as well. You need to follow the mantra of practice, practice, practice and practice some more. In center fire that means getting GOOD ammo as cheaply as possible. Reloading will save tons over factory and you can't depend on surplus stuff to be accurate or reliable. You also don't want to ruin a gun using corrosive ammo if you do not religiously clean it properly and the process is different than regular cleaning.

While I would like to say talking to a LEO would get you some good info, it's just sadly the case that many of not most really are not that into shooting. Yep some of us liked to shoot competitively but most shoot only wen required to qualify. That would not be a source of good training.

Do go to a CCW class. There is good info there whether you want to eventually carry or not. Training is a good thing in any case.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2011, 02:00:36 PM »
There is no substitute for competent, professional instruction.  I applaud your attitude of wanting to do things the right way.

Look up NRA certified instructors in your area.  As an instructor myself, I'll say right now that I'll give a price break to anyone with an Aces High account, but you gotta come to the Denver area to receive training!

http://www.nrahq.org/education/index.asp

This is the NRA Education and Training website.  You can find info here on NRA courses, and find instructors and scheduled courses near you.

http://www.wheretoshoot.org/

This is a great site to find places to shoot.

http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/index.asp

Another great site for info on Concealed Carry.

All the other things that people have said about competitions is really good info too.

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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 02:12:58 PM »
I know there are many vets and firearms enthusists here. I'm finally going to persue an interest that I have had for many years and join the ranks of target sport. I want to do it right and do it safely. I'm really not interested in the automatic weapons of today, but more drawn to the Garand, Lee Enfield and older weapons. I am also interested in the proper use of a handgun and would like to become proficient with at least one. I've looked into firearm saftey courses but I also have a few friends that are avid shooters. Curious if there are others that are just starting out, or any suggestions by experienced shooters.

If you like, i could send you my email address. Ive worked (work PT) in an indoor range as a rangemaster and safety instructor. I learned from my father,who was a member of the Army pistol team, then an instructor for the ME and PA State Police.And have been shooting handguns and longuns since i was 4. I also shoot IPSC and IDPA on the weekends. Way to much to type out here, but would be glad to help you any way i can. One thing i can say is your 25% of the way towards shooting safely just by asking for help on how to do it. I see way to many people that believe that since they have the male genitalia, that they instantly know how to use a gun. 100% of the time they are wrong. Women on the other hand, are excellent at shooting safely,as they have no preconceived notion that they are already experts, and listen intently to instructions. One thing Ill add to this, learning gun safety is a very visual thing,that takes time and repetition to master. And once you think you have it mastered, thats when an accident will happen. Its constant learning and being aware that will keep you and those around you safe.

Also, If GMan chimes in here on the subject, listen very closely to what he says, I believe he is a tactical instructor for SigArms.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 02:14:32 PM »
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Re: Firearms Training
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 06:39:22 AM »
Thanks for the assistance. If I need anything additional, I may ask via pm.