Author Topic: A Question for the Experienced GV'ers (Read 1012 times)

Mano · « **on:** February 23, 2011, 01:02:19 PM »

I am fairly new to AH's GV World. I finally had enough perk points to take a Panther out for a spin.
When I found a good spot to shoot from between two small hills, a couple a/c began to circle overhead.
A P-38 dropped a bomb right on me.........poof. There goes my perk points LOL. What tactics
are needed to keep the a/c from hitting you with bombs? Keep driving full speed, hide in trees ( I can't see a thing),
or circle around a Barn? I tried hiding in a barn with no success.

The gv game is allot of fun, but if the a/c can see your icon.....I just don't see how you can hide your tank.

It also seems to me the Panzer IV H has the best anti a/c guns. It would seem the Werbel should be better at that.

Thanks in advance,
<S>
Mano

waystin2 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:07:16 PM »

If I am actively attacking a field, then I fly a quick sortie before and take out their ordnance. Half the problem solved right there. As far as strafers like the IL-2, Hurri IID and the B-25 I park with tree cover or up against steep hillsides if available. Another thing to do is to fire and move fire an move. Or practice firing and moving then you are real dangerous! Don't ever sit in the same spot too long. Even the best campers are found and eliminated eventually. Also helps to have buddies that enjoy covering you in Wirbelwinds, Ostwinds and M-16's. They are kinda like OFF is to mosquitoes.

Belial · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:27:12 PM »

WHat he said^^^ If they want to bomb you they will get you eventually.

The Tiger is 10x more survivable against bombs than the panther is.

choker41 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:06:33 PM »

Best anti-aircraft gun in a tank is the M476. Use the main gun for this. Most experienced guys like Gravy1 and Belial are great at shooting you down with main gun. Actually its not hard at all. I just know that when these guys are near you bring your "A" game.

Dr_Death8 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:11:34 PM »

If you are on the move and have a fighter diving on you for a straffing or egging, take and do a hard left or right turn to throw them off too. Once they are at a certain point, they will no longer be able to correct fast enough and either miss altogether or do minimal damage.

MORAY37 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Mano on February 23, 2011, 01:02:19 PM

I am fairly new to AH's GV World. I finally had enough perk points to take a Panther out for a spin.
When I found a good spot to shoot from between two small hills, a couple a/c began to circle overhead.
A P-38 dropped a bomb right on me.........poof. There goes my perk points LOL. What tactics
are needed to keep the a/c from hitting you with bombs? Keep driving full speed, hide in trees ( I can't see a thing),
or circle around a Barn? I tried hiding in a barn with no success.

The gv game is allot of fun, but if the a/c can see your icon.....I just don't see how you can hide your tank.

It also seems to me the Panzer IV H has the best anti a/c guns. It would seem the Werbel should be better at that.

Thanks in advance,
<S>
Mano

In Real life... tanks could actually use the land for cover from aerial attack.

In AH, tanks have bright red icons visible from anywhere within 1,500 meters. Get within a mile of any plane, you're going to get egged, eventually. I've been whining about this for years now. The gv icon has got to go, at least when it comes to enemy gvs. The did it for gv to gv fighting.... why are air cons able to see them?

Zoney · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:35:46 PM »

Quote from: MORAY37 on February 23, 2011, 04:30:41 PM

In Real life... tanks could actually use the land for cover from aerial attack.

In AH, tanks have bright red icons visible from anywhere within 1,500 meters. Get within a mile of any plane, you're going to get egged, eventually. I've been whining about this for years now. The gv icon has got to go, at least when it comes to enemy gvs. The did it for gv to gv fighting.... why are air cons able to see them?

In real life, your vision is infinite and detail and differences in shading, shadowing, colors and textures is much better than can ever be delivered with the technology computers and programming available in the game. The answer has been the same for years now, the icons give you back what the technology cannot accurately render.

If you don't want to be bombed in a tank then do not up a tank. Kind of like not taking off in an aircraft if you do not want to be shot out of the sky. Sorta like the GV'ers do now.

Mano · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:02:11 PM »

Thank you guys for your comments.......much appreciated. As far as shooting down enemy aircraft....I have tried the M4/76, but I seem to have more success with
the Panzer IV H. I'll have to try the M4/76 more often.....when that perk point is available to me LOL. I'm really amazed at some of the tankers getting kills with one shot.
It usually takes me two or three shots just to figure out the correct distance......that skill takes time to acquire.

Mano

jamdive · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:20:32 PM »

Quote from: Zoney on February 23, 2011, 04:35:46 PM

In real life, your vision is infinite and detail and differences in shading, shadowing, colors and textures is much better than can ever be delivered with the technology computers and programming available in the game. The answer has been the same for years now, the icons give you back what the technology cannot accurately render.

If you don't want to be bombed in a tank then do not up a tank. Kind of like not taking off in an aircraft if you do not want to be shot out of the sky. Sorta like the GV'ers do now.

At 1,500ft in a light aircraft you cant see diddly under a forests canopy let alone anything colored green. Maybe you could pick out a flash of chrome off a cars bumper if the lighting were right or a reflection off a cars windsheild, but your not going to see anything green.

Belial · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:46:56 PM »

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,269006.0.html

1 shot kill pictures~ where to shoot

And when using your main gun to shoot a plane you want to wait for them to come within 1k and fire about 2 ft. above their canopy...it should hit them right on the nose.

Also if a plane is strafing you with low passes...bring some HE rounds and just as they pass over your tank Fire into the ground ( you have to listen for when they are loudest above you)..their wing should be blown off

Scotty55OEFVet · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:19:24 PM »

Quote from: Belial on February 23, 2011, 02:27:12 PM

WHat he said^^^ If they want to bomb you they will get you eventually.

The Tiger is 10x more survivable against bombs than the panther is.

Not my Tiger, lol!

Scotty55OEFVet · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:23:02 PM »

Waystin is 100% correct. When I was a N00B, I had the unfortunate experience of always sitting in the same damn spot, even after Id had bombs dropped on me if I was gettin kills. But, as you play more, you will learn to fire and manuever. When you do have an AC circling overhead, I have also found that instead of turning into their flight path to avoid the hit, drive away as they will drop short more often then they will drop long (my experience, others may tell you different). Good Luck and welcome to AH!

kvuo75 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:47:26 PM »

icons are already hidden if you are actually under cover.

I anti-gv in the IL2 with 37mm. I kill engine to hear them running if I dont spot the motion from way out, or haven't spotted them from tower F5 view. Usually, the 1.5k icon is not even visible until well on the attack pass. To kill, if it's an M4, make sure you're patient enough to climb high enough to be able to get steep enough angle to avoid main gun. You will only get main gunned if you're impatient and/or greedy. Avoid all wirbs/osties. panzers and panthers you can afford to come in less steep if you're desperate, t34's and tiger, the steeper the better, not because they can kill you any easier, but more because they absolutely need to be attacked on the top.

to OP:
these are my general method of gv attack. as others have said, kill ords, you'll avoid most bomb****s.. if you bring a wirble or ostwind along, most IL2's will stay away also, or some fighters kill the il2's and the bomb****s, then other side brings fighters to kill the fighters that killed the bomb****s, then buffs kill VH's, fighters go after buffs, more il2's come in, etc. etc. before ya know it, a good ole AH battle which we all know and love.

sam367 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:19:24 AM »

If you're on the move avoiding bombs remember to down shift after making those 90 degree turns.

waystin2 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:11:32 AM »

Quote from: sam367 on February 25, 2011, 09:19:24 AM

If you're on the move avoiding bombs remember to down shift after making those 90 degree turns.

Remember to always turn into the plane bombing you. This steepens their dive and increases the possibility of an auger. As soon as you hear the bomb release, turn quickly to the left or right about 45 degrees. Turning more than that amount slows you down and may not get you out of the splash zone of a large bomb. This will do you no good though for the folks who ride that bomb 400-600 on top of you. It's what I do, then there is no escape!

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