Red Tails- Movie

[AAJagerX]

My problem with the deal is that Lucas has sooooo much cash, yet he still can't get it "right".

Ok, so instead of whining about CGI and minor details, go out and make something more accurate.  These movies are made for entertainment.  If you can't accept that, then don't watch it.  This "I'm going to crap on a movie I haven't even seen because I don't like the way it's been presented in two trailers that amounted to roughly three minutes of unfinished film." is a load of crap.

Hope that it's farily accurate, and enjoy a movie.  I know I will.

[Melvin]

Ok, so instead of whining about CGI and minor details, go out and make something more accurate.  Get over yourself already.

I can't get over myself.

And I can't fork over the cash to make something better, or else I would.

I prefer to read non-fiction.

[AAJagerX]

I can't get over myself.

And I can't fork over the cash to make something better, or else I would.

I prefer to read non-fiction.

So you whine about things that are beyond your control?  Sounds like a fairly futile gesture to me.
 
EDIT above.

[Melvin]

So you whine about things that are beyond your control?  Sounds like a fairly futile gesture to me.
 
EDIT above.

Well said. 

I HOPE the movie kills. Doubt it will is all.

[AAJagerX]

Fair enough.  I'll be watching it on opening night.  We can debate the details after we see what it truly is.   

[Melvin]

Fair enough.  I'll be watching it on opening night.  We can debate the details after we see what it truly is.   

As will I (because you put it so succinctly).

And we will.

[AAJagerX]

No offense intended bro.  I apologize if I came off harsh.

[jimson]

I'm just going to approach it in the spirit of fun.

Finally get to see an air combat movie made with modern special effects.

Warts and all, this is a good thing.

We need more of such to revive interest in this era we are all so enamored with.

[Melvin]

No offense intended bro.  I apologize if I came off harsh.

None taken.

For crying out loud, it's a bulletin board titled " The O'Club"

It's where guys like us go to shoot the breeze.

 

[des506]

man... looks awesome!!! can't wait for it to get to Singapore!!!

 

p.s... it doesn't say based on true events... it says inspired by true events...

[Karnak]

For variety, here is a thread about the movie on a non-WWII aviation focused forum:

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1152516

I am curious what you guys think of how the people there look at it?

[oboe]

For variety, here is a thread about the movie on a non-WWII aviation focused forum:

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1152516

I am curious what you guys think of how the people there look at it?

It was the same argument were having here.  Someone is upset about Hollywood getting minutiae incorrect (e.g. Hollywood used a 109G-6 instead of a 109G-14, used the wrong color scheme and the wrong Gruppe emblem) when that level of accuracy doesn't enter into Hollywood's thinking (according to the screenwriter's post).

If those are the worst historical inaccuracies I think we're in for a pretty fair movie.   Bottom line I think is that Hollywood's goals as storyteller here are quite different than what our goals would be.  We have to accept that now or we won't enjoy the movie.   It is SO much better than not having the movie at all, isn't it?   Enjoy the special effects and advances in CGI.  (I wonder if there will be a 3D offering?)

I am also reminded that it isn't just Hollywood that doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story.  I grew up reading as much by Martin Caidin as I could get my hands on, and those books are considered nonfiction histories of the men and aircraft of WWII.   But they often stray from the facts; I suppose for the same reason - the author felt he had to dress up the stories to sell some books.  He sure piqued my interest in WWII air combat like no one else though, I can tell you that.



 

[des506]

well in all fairness...i think hollywood could have done it better being more historically correct... after all its still CGI... it would just be a matter of putting more effort into researching... its less than a couple more hours only.. why couldn't they do it?

http://youtu.be/UNbTVobWzTw

but i'm going to watch it for the story... for the love of dogfights... for the love of flying... not the colour of the plane's skin., or the type of plane *who the hell doesn't know its a 109 or a 262???*

you guys are forgetting the whole point... this isn't about the planes they flew.. its about the people that flew them... if you stopped judging and just watched it for its pure entertainment value and also for the story behind it....you would be a less miserable person. i hated pearl harbour not because of the historical incorrectness or the twist in the story behind it... i hated it cos they made it into a LOVE STORY... and a very badly made love story that made the heroine look like a slurt!


P.s dissing this movie solely because of it historical incorrectness.....its almost like dismissing a beautiful blonde girl solely cos she has a pimple on her face or for wearing the wrong clothes...it seems its all about the aesthetics.. we need to look beyond and find whats on the other side and what really matters, than constantly being blind with just looking at your own behind...


just an opinion..

[-tronski-]

I think people sometimes expect too much - plenty of excellent films from the 50s,60, & 70's would make do with whatever they could source...how many wehrmacht would roll up in M-48's, and grey M3 halftracks.
CGI is of course different but as already stated plenty of things are made generic for the general public to easily identify, as was the case for pre CGI films. People could nit pick the Battle of Britain to pieces for its late marks of Spitfires, Merlin engined Hispanos' & Casa HA-2111's if they wanted to, but that doesn't stop it from being a classic. And the general public can at least get an understanding of the look and types of period aircraft.
In the end it should be the story and tone that makes the difference - pre CGI films didnt rely on equipment, but story and performance. It shouldn't matter as long as the "insignificant" details don't damage the story and tone ie. Pearl Harbor

 Tronsky

[Gh0stFT]

like i said on the first trailer, to much CGI, some flightscenes looking like a PS3 game.
sure CGI is much cheaper then flying real planes, but you see the difference unmistakable.
Nevertheless, i cant wait to see a new flight Movie!