Is this what Hitech wants?

[gyrene81]

Name one maneuver that might work as 10 guys are on you?

no idea what it's call "officially"...i just call it stick stirring...in a horde like that you generally only end up with 3 or 4 on you, the rest are focused on the base thinking you're gonna get shot down...if you stay in amongst them, you can easily knock a few out of commission...killshooter and the ground works for you.

of course you're not going to survive until help arrives but...do what you can to break them up

would you rather they came in with bombers and escorts like most of the mishunz do? i've been a part of some ak noe mishunz...bombers...fighters. ..goons...base is taken in 5 minutes...not my idea of fun but, it breaks the monotony sometimes.

[5PointOh]

Fugi,

I can honestly say I understand where you are coming from.  Yesterday I logged in around 1230pm EST, iirc LWOH had about 350 people in it.  I looked at the map and it seemed like every base on all sides where flashing and had large dar bars.  Either friendly or unfriendly.  I must have sat there and stared at the map for 30 min trying to decided if there was even a point to up. So I finally upped by myself in a 51 flew about a sector to a knit base.  Apparently it was the first time these Knits had ever seen a B-Pony.  5 guys all trying to get a piece of me.  Ok I died, next I went to a base that had a larger friendly dar bar.  I there thinking that the enemy will start to up and all I see is 5-6 friendlies on one guy.  I finally see a 190D off by his lonesome, so I figure that will by my target.  Next thing I know I see tracers going down the axis of my plane. Turns out about 4 friendlies decided to follow along and were trying to kill the guy before me. Finally I logged and went to EW for about 30 min.  Then just logged for the day.  It seems to me the new mentality is either be in the horde or fly against the horde.

In my opinion (not that it really matters a whole lot) is that the health of the arena during the Off Hours (mainly 12EST to 5pm EST) is rather poor. Oh well what can you do really.

[Getback]

Going out to shovel the frickin snow again !!!

Heck, that's a great opportunity to burn calories. I've been on a diet and shoveling snow is one monstrous way to burn calories. I've gotten so I shovel my neighbors sidewalks just to burn more.

As far as hordes go it will be a sad day when there are no hordes.

[TwinBoom]

Going out to shovel the frickin snow again !!!

yeah i had to shovel the sunshine today a blistering 84 outside brrrrrrrrr

[SlapShot]

no 2 weekers want to fly around an arena getting owned all the time by all you uber sticks in 1v1s

Hmmm ... nine years ago, I remember getting my arse handed to me on a consistent basis by the uber sticks in those days and I am still here, and the reason being ... I wanted to become good enough to put an end to that.

To fly this game and remain in this game, one needs to grow a thicker and bigger sack and realize that you are going to die a whole lot before you tip the scales and kill more than you die.

[The Fugitive]

no idea what it's call "officially"...i just call it stick stirring...in a horde like that you generally only end up with 3 or 4 on you, the rest are focused on the base thinking you're gonna get shot down...if you stay in amongst them, you can easily knock a few out of commission...killshooter and the ground works for you.

of course you're not going to survive until help arrives but...do what you can to break them up

would you rather they came in with bombers and escorts like most of the mishunz do? i've been a part of some ak noe mishunz...bombers...fighters. ..goons...base is taken in 5 minutes...not my idea of fun but, it breaks the monotony sometimes.

oh I've posted many a time on the type of missions I'd like to see..... buff groups at 10-15k escorted by fighters, both hvy and light, co-ordinated with GVs hitting the base. Fun for everyone in a single mission, but in something like that it takes planning, co-ordination timing and above all skill  

Fugi,

I can honestly say I understand where you are coming from.  Yesterday I logged in around 1230pm EST, iirc LWOH had about 350 people in it.  I looked at the map and it seemed like every base on all sides where flashing and had large dar bars.  Either friendly or unfriendly.  I must have sat there and stared at the map for 30 min trying to decided if there was even a point to up. So I finally upped by myself in a 51 flew about a sector to a knit base.  Apparently it was the first time these Knits had ever seen a B-Pony.  5 guys all trying to get a piece of me.  Ok I died, next I went to a base that had a larger friendly dar bar.  I there thinking that the enemy will start to up and all I see is 5-6 friendlies on one guy.  I finally see a 190D off by his lonesome, so I figure that will by my target.  Next thing I know I see tracers going down the axis of my plane. Turns out about 4 friendlies decided to follow along and were trying to kill the guy before me. Finally I logged and went to EW for about 30 min.  Then just logged for the day.  It seems to me the new mentality is either be in the horde or fly against the horde.

In my opinion (not that it really matters a whole lot) is that the health of the arena during the Off Hours (mainly 12EST to 5pm EST) is rather poor. Oh well what can you do really.

I flew form 130 EASTERN until the arena switch and had a good time, my guess is those "Brits" like to fight   Once the split happened I went to Orange and hung out there for a couple hours until I got tired of dieing in the horde...I can only stick stir for so long   Jumped into Blue and had a few good fights against the Knights (thanks Thing, and FBLazy1), but then the fights petered out around 1000 EASTERN so I logged and watched the Bruins beat the Canuks  

But like you said for the most part your in the horde chasing a single, or your fighting the horde hoping to take a couple with you as you give up 10 assists and a death per ride  

yeah i had to shovel the sunshine today a blistering 84 outside brrrrrrrrr

your a "potato" you know that!  

[grizz441]

Get your 1v1s in the DA, get your furballing in at furball lake, take what you can get in the MA.  Idk why this is so hard to compute.

[Getback]

Get your 1v1s in the DA, get your furballing in at furball lake, take what you can get in the MA.  Idk why this is so hard to compute.

It's not the pettiest complaint, there's a guy complaining about people watching the map. 

[M0nkey_Man]

[Vudu15]

ROFL this coming from one that was rolling with the hordes for year(s) ! when did you finally break on thru to the other side?

you used to run from everyone unless you had at least 2 of your squadmates with you, and all 3 of you had to have a 3 k altitude advantage on the lonewolf or you would still run and hide in the ack

hypocrisy , gotta laugh at it

not sure if your talkin bout some one else Im generally by myself I always attack and yes Im sometimes a part of the horde, it happens everywhere get over it... very rarely do I run to ack and If I do im landin due to damg. Ive only been here for bout 3 years as different handles, but lookin over your post you must be talkin bout someone else the most Ive been flyin which is last year or so Im in Germany so most of my squaddies aren't on at the same times. If they are we usually dont fly in the same area. Now if youd like to flame me for flyin a Brew go for it. But you might oughta make sure your talkin to the right person.  

[doc1kelley]

ROFL this coming from one that was rolling with the hordes for year(s) ! when did you finally break on thru to the other side?

you used to run from everyone unless you had at least 2 of your squadmates with you, and all 3 of you had to have a 3 k altitude advantage on the lonewolf or you would still run and hide in the ack

hypocrisy , gotta laugh at it

And you know this how?  He is not a part of a buffing/landgrabbing squad.  This must be a shade account or you just don't know what you are talking about.

All the Best...

   Jay

[B4Buster]

Mojo is most certainly thinking of another Vudu, as The Flying Circus doesn't operate that way.

[RufusLeaking]

For the record, there is nothing wrong with hording or land grabbing. It is part of the game.

My Tempest and me would have loved that sight 

Real men fly a Hurricane Mk I.

Seriously, low cv raids are my favorite. It takes a little luck to get off the runway before the hangars go down, or to have a nearby field from which to respond.
The perfect scenario is to have the cv close enough to keep the attackers low, but far enough away to keep the puffy ack off the field/town.

Hello Fugitive,

You asked a good question...How do you fight this?  Well the honest answer on the initial attack is you can't with any hope of real success.  I usually concede the field they are NOE attacking and set up Pig scout flights along lines of approach to the next most likely targets.  It seems to work a good percentage of the time, and can lead to some great fights sea, air & land.

 

Way

Good response. Hordes are not that ingenious. After one or two, it gets pretty easy to guess their objectives.

[bj229r]

Fugi,

I can honestly say I understand where you are coming from.  Yesterday I logged in around 1230pm EST, iirc LWOH had about 350 people in it.  I looked at the map and it seemed like every base on all sides where flashing and had large dar bars.  Either friendly or unfriendly.  I must have sat there and stared at the map for 30 min trying to decided if there was even a point to up. So I finally upped by myself in a 51 flew about a sector to a knit base.  Apparently it was the first time these Knits had ever seen a B-Pony.  5 guys all trying to get a piece of me.  Ok I died, next I went to a base that had a larger friendly dar bar.  I there thinking that the enemy will start to up and all I see is 5-6 friendlies on one guy.  I finally see a 190D off by his lonesome, so I figure that will by my target.  Next thing I know I see tracers going down the axis of my plane. Turns out about 4 friendlies decided to follow along and were trying to kill the guy before me. Finally I logged and went to EW for about 30 min.  Then just logged for the day.  It seems to me the new mentality is either be in the horde or fly against the horde.

In my opinion (not that it really matters a whole lot) is that the health of the arena during the Off Hours (mainly 12EST to 5pm EST) is rather poor. Oh well what can you do really.

My experiences of late are quite similar to this. Most hard to find battles between somewhat equally-matched sides. It subtly forces you to forever get ganged/get discouraged, join your OWN whorde, or toddle around in a 262/Tempest-etc picking around the edges. I find none of those scenarios appetizing

[Rob52240]

Notice all those planes you're complaining about are 15 ENY or above.

Stop complaining, Spawn a wirble and throw out the alert.  It's a lot easier to hold ground than to take it and leaving the arena so you can complain about what happened after you didn't put forth any effort to stop it is just ridiculous.  I bet you're just squeakalicious.

vWNTRGRN