tracers color

[lulu]

I wish to choose my tracers color.


 

[moot]

Historical colors-


US: 50 cals, M2 cannon
UK: 303s, Hispano 20mm, 50cal MG
DE: MG15, MG81Z, MG131, MG151/20, MK108, MK103...
RU: B20 20mm, 7.62mm (MGs on the Il2), VYa 23mm, 12.7mm (rear gun Il2), NS37...
IT: SAFAT 12.7 and 7.62mm...

full list

[Kweassa]

 I'd rather see tracers use better gfx technology which is nowadays common, instead of the decade-old plain texture animation. Bloom, pixel shading, etc..

 Or does AH have that already nowadays? 

[moot]

Hey Kweassa

I don't think bloom would fit too well with AH's old school crispness, but pixel shading would definitely be an excellent improvement if it was used subtly enough.

[Tyrannis]

i wish for the ability to determine how bright/dim my tracers are.
 

[Wmaker]

Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.

[Flench]

Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.

Same !

[Pigslilspaz]

Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.

+2

[JOACH1M]

Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.

[Imowface]

Historical colors-


US: 50 cals, M2 cannon
UK: 303s, Hispano 20mm, 50cal MG
DE: MG15, MG81Z, MG131, MG151/20, MK108, MK103...
RU: B20 20mm, 7.62mm (MGs on the Il2), VYa 23mm, 12.7mm (rear gun Il2), NS37...
IT: SAFAT 12.7 and 7.62mm...

full list

Hey moot I assume with the B20's being red the ShVAKS would be the same ?

[moot]

I don't know.  One of the Russian specialists should know.  Maybe Tilt?  I don't remember exactly who the ruskie pros are.
The full list in that link says

ShVAK - Shpital'nyj-Vladimirov Aviatsionnaya Krupnokalibernaya -
large caliber aircraft gun designed by Shpitalnyj and Vladimirov
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- APIT - HE

[Imowface]

Ty, I am using a school computer right now so the link was blocked, and so was google when I searched it

[moot]

Huh.. Thanks for that info.
Might as well copy the whole thing here.  I couldnt find ussr and nazi germany flags in same format.  A table would be more of a breeze to look up with but that takes too long to make with the forum table system.


RU

DA - Degtyareva Aviatsionnyj - Aviation MG by Degtyareva
- ammunition 7,62 x 54R (calibre*lenght of the cartridge case, R for rimmed case)
- 780 RPM
- muzzle velocity 818 m/s
- projectile weight 9,6 gm
- gun weight 8kg
- tracer color green

ShKAS - Shpital'nyj-Komaritskij Aviatsionnyj Skorostel'nyj -
rapid fire MG designed by Komaritskij
- 7,62 x 54R
- 1800 RPM
- 870 m/s
- 9,6 gm
- 7,1 kg
- green
- ammo belt composition APIT - API - T - API

UB - Universal'nyj Berezina - multi purpose MG designed by Berezin
- UBS - synchronized, UBK - fixed for wings, UBT - flexible
- 12,7 x 108
- 900-1050 RPM (in synchronized instalation 800 RPM)
- 860 m/s
- 52 gm - API
- 25 kg
- white
- APIT - AP - HEI

B-20 -  Berezina - designer name
- B-20S - synchronized
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 25 kg
- red
- APIT - HE

ShVAK - Shpital'nyj-Vladimirov Aviatsionnaya Krupnokalibernaya -
large caliber aircraft gun designed by Shpitalnyj and Vladimirov
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- APIT - HE

VYa - Volkov and Yartsev - names of designers
- 23 x 152R
- 550 RPM
- 880 m/s
- 200 gm - HE
- 68 kg
- red
- HEIT - API - API

NS-37 - Nudel'man and Suranov - names of designers
- 37 x 195
- 250 RPM
- 900 m/s
- 735 gm - HEI
- 170 kg
- red
- HEIT - APT
- APT - HEIT - HEIT (for Yak-9UT)


NS-45 - Nudel'man and Suranov - names of designers
- 45 x 185
- 250 RPM
- 850 m/s
- 1065 gm - HE
- 170 kg
- yellow
- HEIT - APT

FAB (Fugasnaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba) - general purpose bombs
- FAB-50
- FAB-100
- FAB-250
- FAB-500
- FAB-1000
 
VAP (Vylivnoy Aviatsionny Pribor) - napalm canister
- VAP-250

AJ-2 -  incendiary bombs
AO-10 (Aviatsionnaya Oskolochnyang) - fragmentation bombs
PTAB-2.5 (ProtivoTankovaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba) - anti-armor  bombs
RS-82, RS-132 (Reaktivny Snaryad) - general purpose rockets
BRS-82, BRS-132 (Broneboyniy Reaktivny Snaryad) - anti armor rockets
M-13 - incendiary rockets
_____________________________ _____________________________ _________


DE

MG15 - Maschinengewehr - machine gun
- 7,92 x 57
- 1000 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 7,1 kg
- white
- AP - AP - APT

MG17
- 7,92 x 57
- 1200 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 12,6 kg
- red
- AP - AP - APT

MG81Z - Zwilling - twins - two MG81 together
- 7,92 x 57
- 3200 RPM
- 715 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 12,9 kg
- white
- AP - APT

MG 131
- 13 x 64B
- 900 RPM
- 750 m/s
- 38,5 gm - AP
- 17 kg
- blue
- HET - AP - HE - AP

MG 151
- 15 x 96
- 700 RPM
- 960 m/s
- 57 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- HET - AP - HE - AP

MG-FF/M
- 20 x 80RB
- 530 RPM
- 700 m/s
- 62 gm - HE
- 26 kg
- yellow
- APIT - HE - HE - MG

MG 151/20
- MG151/20E - version with electric primer
- 20 x 82
- 700 RPM
- 800 m/s
- 92 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- blue
- APIT - HE - HE - MG - MG

MK 101 - Maschinenkanone - automatic cannon
- 30 x 184B
- 230 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 180 kg
- yellow

MK 103
- 30 x 184B
- 360-420 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 141 kg
- yellow
- APT - MG - MG - HE

MK 108
- 30 x 90RB
- 600 RPM
- 505 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 60 kg
- yellow
- HEIT - MG

BK 3.7 - Bordkanone - aviation gun
- 37 x 263B
- 160 RPM
- 1170 m/s
- 405 gm - APCR
- 295 kg
- red
- APCRT (for Ju-87 G1)
- HET (for Bf110 BK 3.7 gunpod)

MK214A
- 50 x 419R
- 160 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 1520 gm - HE
- 490 kg
- yellow
- APT - HET

BK 7.5
- 75 x 714R
- 30 RPM
- 790 m/s
- 6800 gm - APCR
- 705 kg
- red

SC (Sprengbombe Cylindrisch) - general purpose bombs
- SC 50
- SC 70
- SC 250
- SC 500
- SC 1000 "Hermann"
- SC 1800 "Satan"
- SC 2000

SD (Splitterbombe Dickwand) - fragmentation bomb
- SD 500

PC (Panzerbombe Cylindrisch) - armor piercing bomb
- PC 1600

AB (Abwurf Behalter) - cluster bombs
- AB 250
- AB 500
- AB 1000

Wf.Gr.21 (WerferGranate) - anti-aircraft rocket
R4M "Orkan" (Rakete 4 kg Minenkopf) - anti-aircraft rocket
_____________________________ __________________________
 

JP

Type 97
- 7,7 x 58SR
- 900 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 12,7 kg
- yellow

Ho 103
- 12,7 x 81SR
- 800 RPM
- 760 m/s
- 35,4 gm - AP
- 23 kg
- yellow

Ho 5
- 20 x 94
- 750 RPM
- 730 m/s
- 79 gm - HE
- 37 kg
- yellow

Type 99
- 20 x 101RB
- 500 RPM
- 750 m/s
- 127 gm - HE
- 28 kg
- yellow

Ho 155
- 30 x 114
- 400 RPM
- 700 m/s
- 235 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow

250 kg bomb - general purpose
 _____________________________ ___________________________

US

Browning M2 .30
- 7,62 x 63
- 1200 RPM
- 845 m/s
- 10,9 gm
- 10 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - AP - APIT - API - API

Browning M2 .50
- 12,7 x 99
- 600-850 RPM
- 870 m/s
- 46 gm - AP
- 29 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - HE - AP

AN/M2
- 20 x 110
- 600 PRM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP
 

M4
- 37 x 145R
- 140-150 RPM
- 610 m/s
- 608 gm - HE
- 96 kg
- red
- HET - HET

M10
- 37 x 145R
- 150-170 RPM
- 610 m/s
- 608 gm - HE
- 109 kg
- red
- HET - HET

M4
- 75 x 350R
- manual loading
- 600 m/s
- 6670 gm - HE
- 405 kg
- red
- HET - HET

M5
- 75 x 350R
- manual loading
- 600 m/s
- 6670 gm - HE
- 184 kg
- red
- HET - HET

- 250 lb bomb - general purpose
- 500 lb bomb - general purpose
- 1000 lb bomb - general purpose

HVAR - High Velocity Aircraft Rocket - general purpose rocket
4,5' rockets - general purpose rocket
_____________________________ _____________________________
 

UK

Browning .303
- 7,7 x 56R
- 1150 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 10 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - AP - APIT - API - API

Hispano MkI/II
- 20 x 110
- 600 PRM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP

- 250 lb bomb - general purpose
- 500 lb bomb - general purpose
_____________________________ _____________________________ _
 

PL

PWU wz.33
- 7,92 x 57
- 1000 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 11,5 kg
- red

PuW 12.5 - general purpose bombs
 _____________________________ ___________________________


IT

BREDA SAFAT 7.7
- 7,7 x 56R
- 800 - 900 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 12,5 kg
- red

BREDA SAFAT 12.7
- 12,7 x 81SR
- 700 RPM
- 760 m/s
- 35,4 gm - AP
- 29 kg
- red

- 50 kg bomb - general purpose
- 100 kg bomb - general purpose
_____________________________ _____________________________
 

FR

MAC-1934
- 7,5 x 54
- 1200 - 1500 RPM
- 830 m/s
- 9,5 gm
- 8,5 kg
- yellow

HS.404
- 20 x 110
- 700 RPM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 60 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP
 _____________________________ ____________________________


HU

40mm 36M
- 40 x 311R
- 150 RPM
- 850 m/s
- 955 gm- HE
- 438 kg
- red
 _____________________________ ____________________________

 
LEGEND

T - Tracer bullet
AP - Armor-Piercing bullet
APT - Armor-Piercing with Tracer
API - Armor-Piercing Incendary
APIT - Armor-Piercing Incendary Tracer
APCRT - Armor-Piercing Compsoite Rigid Tracer (hard core shell)
HE - High-Explosive shell
HEI - High-Explosive Incendary shell
HET - High-Explosive with Tracer
HEIT - High-Explosive Incendary Tracer
MG - M-Geschoss, thin-shell High Explosive shell

engine mounting - firing thru propeler axis
RPM - rounds per minute
rpg - rounds per gun

[dstrip2]

+1 historical tracer colors.

how representative of the actual color would the tracers be? i mean i dont expect to see royal blue stuff zipping past me... maybe i should though?

[StokesAk]

I like the idea, I would still have mine off though.

Wich makes the point of turning tracers off for specific planes.