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Offline Lusche

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2011, 06:51:25 AM »
If you are right, there should not be a 0 delay because in Aces High bombs are released from one point?
I say if the real plane could do it then we should be able to do it in AH.

Only planes that had external and/or very few bombs in the bombbay could in drop them all at once (in theory). But giving them a delay of 0 in AH wouldn't matter at all,  it's just ~1-4 bombs we are talking about.
But the planes there a 0 delay would make a hige difference couldn't drop them all at once - there is no way to get all all those 56 stacked  250lbs bombs of a B-29 leaving the bay at the same time, that's physically simply impossible.
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 09:05:19 AM »
From 20k+ with 500lbs bombs salvo 3, delay 0.05 for hangers and drop on leading edge of target, see if that helps :salute
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 09:58:22 AM »
The reason is that in Aces High, the bombs are all released from the same point inside the aircraft (at least I think it's this way - I can't imagine it being any other way).  So you'd  basically have one big clump of bombs coming out and flattening whatever they hit probably because they'd all hit the same point :P

So +1 to a very small delay (probably the time taken for a bomb to travel the diameter of itself upon release), but -1 to no delay.

Bombs are released from the point where they hang in the plane, I.E. all are released from different points.

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2011, 11:05:39 AM »
According to pictures I've seen just now, the bomb rack in a b-24 were arranged in pair on each side of the bomber bay, bomb being stacked one above the other. So as previously mentioned, even with a delay of 0 they would not hit the exact same spot because they don't really drop from the same height. Moreover, these are unguided bomb and very subject to windage during their drop and to the wind hitting them exiting the bomb bay that would sway them off a bit. These old times bomber WERE carpet bomber. Even if trying to destroy some precise target, they would send a large volume of ordnance to ensure enough hit. precision bombing was a fighter business until the introduction of guided ammunition.

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2011, 11:40:37 AM »
Bombs are released from the point where they hang in the plane, I.E. all are released from different points.

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2011, 12:28:53 PM »
15k drop alt with salvo 3 delay .15 with 500lbers will drop hangers even if your timing is slightly off.  Drop on hanger leading edge.  Even if your calibration isn't spot on you should kill it on explosion radius alone. This is also good for heavily populated re-arm pads and flight lines. :angel:
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2011, 12:48:54 PM »
I have wanted to see the ability to select drop modes:
Single - the way it is now with one bomb per pulse
Pairs - two bombs per pulse
Triple - three bombs per pulse
And Ripple - single bomb drops at the delay rate for as long as you hold the bomb release button

Salvo would still control the number of pulses (except for Ripple mode) with Delay controlling the time between pulses.  I would also like to see the Delay increased to 2 seconds so bomb spacing can get up to 500 feet.

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2011, 03:11:32 PM »
If you up a formation, you get the same result as a 3 bomb per release-pulse setting. most target do net need much more than a 2-3 salvo(that would add up to 6-9 weapons all in all). When trying to precision bomb I usually go with a 0.05 delay and 3 salvo with 500lber and 2 with 1000lber. That give you 4 pass in a B-24 and 3-4 pass in a B-17 depending on your loadout and precision is quite good up to 20K. I usually tend to put a little more weapons on target than strictly needed just to be sure of effectiveness. With these setting a salvo pattern will be about the right size for most airfield target. However the fighter/attack planes really lack any bomb release setting. When planning a strike against enemy assets, you don't want to be forced to make more than 1 pass. That is unless your flying CAS.
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2011, 04:03:33 PM »
Bombs are released from the point where they hang in the plane, I.E. all are released from different points.

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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2011, 05:15:55 PM »

Only planes that had external and/or very few bombs in the bombbay could in drop them all at once (in theory). But giving them a delay of 0 in AH wouldn't matter at all,  it's just ~1-4 bombs we are talking about.
But the planes there a 0 delay would make a hige difference couldn't drop them all at once - there is no way to get all all those 56 stacked  250lbs bombs of a B-29 leaving the bay at the same time, that's physically simply impossible.

In both the B-17 and B-24 you could "salvo" the bomb load....they were all released at the same time.

If needed you could salvo right through the bombbay doors on either airplane -- on the B-17 the ends of the arms that control the door seperates, on the B-24 the bomb bay door "unzips" from the track.
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2011, 03:53:51 PM »
+1 for .01!
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Re: Bomb Delay
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2011, 04:01:54 PM »
Delay fuzed bombs would be good for low level attacks. Did they use them at all during th war?

lots. the standard RAF strategic loadouts had mixed delays anywhere from impact to days, all from the same drop. booby trapped effectively, just like al quaeda do.


If needed you could salvo right through the bombbay doors on either airplane -- on the B-17 the ends of the arms that control the door seperates, on the B-24 the bomb bay door "unzips" from the track.

interesting :aok
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