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Offline Rondar

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New computer... maybe
« on: March 03, 2011, 11:07:14 AM »
If I were to build another computer, what processor is preferred now?  Intel, Amd, and which one.  I am not looking for the best absolute killer computer, just one that will run aces high and surf internet for a few years.  I was going to give my old computer to the wife so I can have mine back.  (this computer is flat sick of looking at jcpenneys, menards, macy's, kohls, etc   :( :cry )

Well, anybody have a preferred parts list for 600 to 1000 dollars?
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 11:22:56 AM »
economy wise, take a look at the parts on this discussion...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307848.0.html

if you want to save money and have good performance...amd...if you don't care about money and want a hot fast system...intel.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 05:23:05 PM »
Not sure how much into your budget you want to go, However I priced the following @ $811.93, This includes a 6 Core processor, 6GB DDR3 Ram,  a 470 Fermi 1GB Graphics Card, NZXT Phantom (Nice cool case, You can however save some money by choosing a different case). 730watt powersupply, MoBo that offers overclock options and the Hard Drive is just a normal 500GB, If you want a Veolicraptor those will affect your price considerably since I think the 150GB is $119.

If anyone here would like to add to or remove/modify from my list please go ahead!

Case: NZXT Phantom - $139.99
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-870A - $94.99
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 Core - $199.99
Memory (RAM): G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - $64.99
Power Supply: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W - $59.99
Vid Card: EVGA 012-P3-1470-RX GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 - $211.99 (Recertified saved $$$)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache - $39.99

Subtotal: $811.93

Also the Vid Card comes with a free copy of Iron Man 2 lol

Oh btw this would be MORE than sufficient to run AH and alot of other games for Years to come =]
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 10:27:38 AM »
^^^^excellent rig^^

though I would go overboard and get a 900 watt PSU just because if you were to upgrade then you wouldnt need to buy another PSU.

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 10:55:55 AM »
i would change out the video card for an ati 5870...only because the base platform is amd

just a point to outbreak...that whole rig is a bit overkill according to the op.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 11:12:17 AM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on March 04, 2011, 10:55:55 AM
i would change out the video card for an ati 5870...only because the base platform is amd

just a point to outbreak...that whole rig is a bit overkill according to the op.
what Gyrene said regarding ATI & AMD, but also I would opt for a MotherBoard that had AMD North Bridge / South Bridge chipsets as well...... (NOTE: I did not look up what the listed Gigabyte board has on it )

while 6 cores sound "awesome" (not really) I would drop back to a Quadcore 956 or 970 phenom cpu..... and up my Ram from 6 gigs to 8 gigs <--- this depends on MB layout as well regarding dimm slots available 2/3/or 4....
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 11:31:47 AM »
Partial to the Intel chips myself, the i7 series is a great processor and is uber easy to overclock. My brothers build has AMD phenom and he deals w BSOD a fair amount. It also allows you to disable the hyper-thread that actually helps out the the temps and speeds on single app. As far as the power supply....go big! wont loose, and its not like your sucking up that power all the time. The vid card......well I am running two ati radeon 5770 crossfired, good card but has a few glitches that amd hasn't worked out yet. more on the amd vid cards.....if you ever plan on getting a 120HZ monitor, amd will only support 60 Hz, had i known that, i would have opted for the nvidia.

Oh one other thing...the motherboard needs to support at least 12 g of mem. I confess i have not looked at it. Newer games are getting to be REAL mem hogs
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 11:38:07 AM »
Quote from: groundfeeder on March 04, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
The vid card......well I am running two ati radeon 5770 crossfired, good card but has a few glitches that amd hasn't worked out yet. more on the amd vid cards.....if you ever plan on getting a 120HZ monitor, amd will only support 60 Hz, had i known that, i would have opted for the nvidia.

is this something specific to the 5770 models? I have not heard of this before.... never had this problem with any Ati cards in the past ....... thought it was dependent on the monitor's alloted refresh and the graphics card refresh depending on what res one uses???
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »
just a quick mock up configured build from CyberPower PC's on the net I came up with this, which has SATA III & USB 3.0 ports

using a SATA III HD

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CyberPower configured System specs:
*BASE_PRICE: [+579]
CARE1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
CAS: CoolerMaster Elite 430 Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Side Panel Window [-11]
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+76]
CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
FAN: XtremeGear Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: 500GB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-10] (Single Hard Drive)
KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
MEMORY: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module [+94] (Kingston HyperX)
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4A87TD EVO AMD 870 Chipset CrossFireX Support DDR3 Socket AM3 ATX w/ 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, IEEE1394a, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 1 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI [+54]
MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY [-83]
POWERSUPPLY: 700 Watts - XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply [+10]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+43] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
_PRICE: (+790)

cost: $790.00 + shipping


if I had added in Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit OS the price jumped to  $978.00 + Shipping

to have something to compare to, and this comes with 3 year warranty and preassembled and liquid cooled CPU

I am not promoting CyberPower PC, I have never bought from them or am I recommending them, this is just for comparison sake....use your own research, thoughts, etc... if you decide to purchase from these people ( I am non-biased in this post )

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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 12:06:27 PM »
Quote from: groundfeeder on March 04, 2011, 11:31:47 AM
Partial to the Intel chips myself, the i7 series is a great processor and is uber easy to overclock. My brothers build has AMD phenom and he deals w BSOD a fair amount. It also allows you to disable the hyper-thread that actually helps out the the temps and speeds on single app. As far as the power supply....go big! wont loose, and its not like your sucking up that power all the time. The vid card......well I am running two ati radeon 5770 crossfired, good card but has a few glitches that amd hasn't worked out yet. more on the amd vid cards.....if you ever plan on getting a 120HZ monitor, amd will only support 60 Hz, had i known that, i would have opted for the nvidia.

Oh one other thing...the motherboard needs to support at least 12 g of mem. I confess i have not looked at it. Newer games are getting to be REAL mem hogs
aside from the intel cpus being overpriced, for an economical gaming rig (read as cheap and reliable)...amd phenom's especially the black editions, with amd north/south bridge chipset mobo's are powerful enough to handle most anything for a lower cost than an equal intel...you have to be aware of the potentials for problems when matching an amd cpu to a mobo...i make it a point to never buy 1st gen, which keeps me from making rash decisions about the actual capabilities, or giving poor advice...

never heard of a refresh rate limit of only 60hz for the top tier radeon video cards...i have a 4870 that i know will support 82hz if my monitor will...if you don't have an actual driver to identify your monitor's hardware to the os, the video card will default to native resolution at 60hz...

6gb of ram for a gaming system is more than adequate...12gb is wasted memory.
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 06:00:25 PM »
TequilaChaser, that is a nice list indeed.  I roughed out a system somewhat like yours, and it came to 1001 dollars, which would qualify for their 5% discount if I can wait 2-3 weeks, which I could, so that would save another 50.00 there.

I then took that very list and went to newegg, and priced out each component as near as I could, meaning sometimes mouse brand or keyboard brand or something little was different branded so I had to adjust.  It came out to 1079 bucks, and I would only have the individual components warrenty and such. 

I'm still thinking I would like to go cheaper by a couple hundred dollars, but where does one start cutting? 
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 06:16:00 PM »
Quote from: Rondar on March 04, 2011, 06:00:25 PM
I'm still thinking I would like to go cheaper by a couple hundred dollars, but where does one start cutting? 
swap the liquid cooling for a large fan type rifle cooler...drop the memory from 8gb to 4gb or 6gb (since you won't need that much unless you're gonna host a webserver)...
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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 07:17:48 PM »
if you want it for ah, get an intel cpu.  less problems playing ah per skuzzy.  he has mentioned this in many threads.  I believe he's talking as a group he has more problems with amd than with intel.  then there's the one core thingy which I don't understand but you may want to research.  as for getting six cores ah only uses two so get the fastest two core cpu you can afford rather than a slower zilion cores.


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Re: New computer... maybe
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 07:20:59 PM »
Which version of windows 7 should one get?  32 or 64 bit... and home or professional or ultimate?  I dont know.  Should a guy cut in the video card or is that asking for trouble?


And Semp, that makes sense. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 07:37:19 PM »
64bit win7 would be able to recognize and make use of all that ram...professional would be better than home edition...don't cut back on that graphics card...the quad core amd will be stable enough with win7 and ah as long as the mobo has matching amd chipsets...it's when you start mixing nvidia chipsets with amd cpus and tossing soundblaster sound cards into systems with onboard audio chips that you start having problems...overclocking can cause problems too unless you know what you're doing...
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