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Offline Black Jack

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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 09:33:16 AM »
One really good thing to learn from is to download the films of good sticks or ask the opponent to send them to you. Check em out from their views. You will see where they look, for how long, how they set up the shots, throttle response. Stuff you do not see from your film.  ;)  example would be of Agent360 films.  :aok

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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 11:01:14 AM »
Also talk to different people, what I found over the years is I took little tips and advice from many different people.  You may spend an hour dueling someone and if you can take one little lesson or new way of thinking about something away from that then it's a win.
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 11:42:38 AM »
Also talk to different people, what I found over the years is I took little tips and advice from many different people.  You may spend an hour dueling someone and if you can take one little lesson or new way of thinking about something away from that then it's a win.
This IMO is the best way to learn in Aces High.

I never had training from actual Trainers mainly just because my scedule could never fit in but the tips you get from dueling/flying with better sticks just makes you that much better.
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2011, 04:36:01 AM »
Gonna throw this out here, Vampire is not new but has a strong desire to learn.

But he will "suck" the blood right out of you:)
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2011, 07:40:30 AM »
One really good thing to learn from is to download the films of good sticks or ask the opponent to send them to you. Check em out from their views. You will see where they look, for how long, how they set up the shots, throttle response. Stuff you do not see from your film.  ;)  example would be of Agent360 films.  :aok

you dont need the other persons film to watch it from their view,you can do that with your film also,
just click on their name in the film viewer while your watching it. :salute

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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 08:37:26 AM »
you dont need the other persons film to watch it from their view,you can do that with your film also,
just click on their name in the film viewer while your watching it. :salute

 the problem with looking from the other persons cockpit in your own film.....is that you'll still see your own view switches.....unlsee that's been changed.....
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 12:09:31 PM »
:furious  ok so I love going to the DA and try to learn a few things to improve. even if i'm unsuccessful at staying up longer than two min per sortie, AND get frustrated, I still enjoyed the time spent! but when the top notch guys are "showing you ways to improve" I often wonder what they leave out, knowingly or not. for instance 2 equal planes in the scissors and your telling your "newby"  -me-
"keep your nose up," "pull harder," "be more aggressive," I often wonder "how did I once again get in this predicament?" and "why am I again on the defensive and have to hold my nose up, and not him?" any way, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.      -------by the way this refers to 1v1 situations-------  

so I do learn from these scenarios that I suck. but is that it? I just suck? don't get me wrong I still enjoy the 1v1, but it would be nice to graduate from suck to newb killer.  :lol
 or even total suckage up to just a standard suck tard.   any advise?

I was last told to think positively... I  have the book "with winning in mind" but I'm having a hard time applying my knowledge from that book to my royal suckage! where is one of thes?-->  :old:


As I did with you Vampire, I try to hilight your mistakes and talk you thru a fight against me while we are fighting. I hold nothing back, I honestly try to help you shoot me down. Even when i'm fighting squadies I will say things like "don't do that" or "there ya go now pull for the shot"etc etc.


The better you get and the harder it is to beat you the more rewarding the victory!

I hold nothing back my friend!!!    :salute

BTW I've yet to watch a single film for my own learning!

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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2011, 12:12:44 PM »

As I did with you Vampire, I try to hilight your mistakes and talk you thru a fight against me while we are fighting. I hold nothing back, I honestly try to help you shoot me down. Even when i'm fighting squadies I will say things like "don't do that" or "there ya go now pull for the shot"etc etc.


The better you get and the harder it is to beat you the more rewarding the victory!

I hold nothing back my friend!!!    :salute



JUGgler

this i have found to be true of many of the good pile-its.

shuffler, soulss, have both helped me this way, ren in the ta, bigrat.......any of these guys will do all they can to help you out, and if asked, i try to help guys too. my problem is that half the time, i don't really know what i did to win a fight, and if i do, i don't know how to explain it.
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2011, 02:21:45 PM »
:furious  ok so I love going to the DA and try to learn a few things to improve. even if i'm unsuccessful at staying up longer than two min per sortie, AND get frustrated, I still enjoyed the time spent! but when the top notch guys are "showing you ways to improve" I often wonder what they leave out, knowingly or not. for instance 2 equal planes in the scissors and your telling your "newby"  -me-
"keep your nose up," "pull harder," "be more aggressive," I often wonder "how did I once again get in this predicament?" and "why am I again on the defensive and have to hold my nose up, and not him?" any way, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.      -------by the way this refers to 1v1 situations------- 

so I do learn from these scenarios that I suck. but is that it? I just suck? don't get me wrong I still enjoy the 1v1, but it would be nice to graduate from suck to newb killer.  :lol
 or even total suckage up to just a standard suck tard.   any advise?

I was last told to think positively... I  have the book "with winning in mind" but I'm having a hard time applying my knowledge from that book to my royal suckage! where is one of thes?-->  :old:

I try to pass on all I can to help anyone who comes along. Take note as many are not very good at covering subtle moves. I find myself failing to pass along some things because to me they have become second nature. I simply do not notice that it is something I do when flying.

I know I pretty much suck at teaching because of this very thing. There are those that excel at teaching. We have several in the 80th. While I can enlighten you on many things, they can down right drill down and get you to the core of good cartoon flying habits.

As posted above.... film all your fights and delve into them often. Win or lose go back and see the WHY!!
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Re: Train or tease?
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2011, 02:34:55 PM »
i lose most of my fights because the p-38's flight modeling is all wrong.........







that's my story, and i'm stickin to it.  :devil :devil :noid :neener:
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