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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2011, 09:10:00 AM »
This is not Challenger but it is aviation. At the very least it should tug at the heart strings of us grey beards. Don't know it is true or not but here it is anyway.

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Old Aviators and Old Airplanes.....

This is a good little story about a vivid memory of a P-51 and its pilot by a fellow who was 12 years old in Canada in 1967. You may know a few others who would appreciate it.

It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang P-51 was to take to the air. They said it had flown in during the night from some U.S. airport, the pilot had been tired. I marveled at the size of the plane dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied down by her. It was much larger than in the movies. She glistened in the sun like a bulwark of security from days gone by.

The pilot arrived by cab, paid the driver, and then stepped into the flight lounge. He was an older man; his wavy hair was gray and tossed. Looked like it might have been combed, say, around the turn of the century.

His flight jacket was checked, creased and worn - it smelled old and genuine. Old Glory was prominently sewn to its shoulders. He projected a quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of arrogance. He filed a quick flight plan to Montreal (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked across the tarmac.

After taking several minutes to perform his walk-around check the pilot returned to the flight lounge to ask if anyone would be available to stand by with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird up. Just to be safe."

Though only 12 at the time I was allowed to stand by with an extinguisher after brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire, point, then pull this lever!" I later became a firefighter, but that's another story.

The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a mirror from fuel fumes as the huge prop started to rotate. One manifold, then another, and yet another barked -- I stepped back with the others. In moments the Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a thunderous roar, blue flames knifed from her manifolds. I looked at the others' faces, there was no concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher. One of the guys signaled to walk back to the lounge. We did.

Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing his pre flight run-up. He'd taxied to the end of runway 19, out of sight. All went quiet for several seconds; we raced from the lounge to the second story deck to see if we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as she started down the runway. We could not.

There we stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a roar ripped across the field, much louder than before, like a furious hell spawn set loose---something mighty this way was coming. "Listen to that thing!" said the controller. In seconds the Mustang burst into our line of sight.

Its tail was already off and it was moving faster than anything I'd ever seen by that point on 19. Two-thirds the way down 19 the Mustang was airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed hellish fast into the circuit to be eaten up by the dog-day haze.

We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying to digest what we'd just seen. The radio controller rushed by me to the radio. " Kingston tower calling Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an acknowledgment.

The radio crackled, "Go ahead Kingston." "Roger Mustang. Kingston tower would like to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass." I stood in shock because the controller had, more or less, just asked the pilot to return for an impromptu air show!

The controller looked at us. "What?" He asked. "I can't let that guy go without asking. I couldn't forgive myself!"

The radio crackled once again, "Kingston, do I have permission for a low level pass, east to west, across the field?" "Roger Mustang, the circuit is clear for an east to west pass." "Roger, Kingston, I'm coming out of 3000 feet, stand by."

We rushed back onto the second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the eastern haze. The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a muffled screech, a distant scream. Moments later the P-51 burst through the haze. Her airframe straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing tips spilling contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again supersonic as the burnished bird blasted across the eastern margin of the field shredding and tearing the air.
Coperheads post reminded me of this story. Sorry if this double-posts.


At about 400 mph and 150 yards from where we stood she passed with the old American pilot saluting. Imagine. A salute! I felt like laughing, I felt like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building shook, my heart pounded.

Then the old pilot pulled her up and rolled, and rolled, and rolled out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into my memory.

I've never wanted to be an American more than on that day. It was a time when many nations in the world looked to America as their big brother, a steady and even-handed beacon of security who navigated difficult political water with grace and style; not unlike the pilot who'd just flown into my memory.

He was proud, not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and honest, projecting an aura of America at its best. That America will return one day, I know it will.

Until that time, I'll just send off this story; call it a reciprocal salute, to the old American pilot who wove a memory for a young Canadian that's lasted a lifetime.
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2011, 09:12:45 AM »
Someone emailed me the above story. Coperheads post reminded me of it.
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2011, 09:15:51 AM »
If I have the perks and want to farm scalps (such as hordlings rolling a base), of course it's a Tempest for me. I have always loved the Typhoon and the Tempest for some reason... I think they're gorgeous in an odd sort of way......

Typhoon for ground attack...

I see the Typhoon and the first thing that comes to mind is it looks to be saying "Hello, I'm here to kill you. There is little you can do."





If I want to furball, especially against CV attack, it's the Hurri IIc. No explanation needed.

LA7 is for chasing down runners. Not great at anything but being fast, but good at everything enough to be dangerous.

If I want to farm perks I either fly the Ki-61 (I have come to LOVE that little bird) or the 109, either G6 or G14. I like the gondies for the hitting power, especially if we have numerical advantage and I'm less likely to get bounced from high and have to turnfight.

Have come to loath the P51D and just about any Spitfire after the Spit 5. Ultimate dweeb rides. Hate Brewsters too because they're so danged hard to hit, and if you miss they fire up their RATO units and chase you down at 500 mph in a dive after reversing 180 degrees.  :huh Same problem with Ki-84s.... e-retaining freaks that always seem to have a way of disappearing from my gunsight 0.00001 sec before my tracers get there..... and reappearing behind me still with all their e, even after hard maneuvering.....

My personal absolute favorite aircraft of WWII is the P-38.....but all I manage to do in it is either be a large target or an "assist machine."

I'm such a poor pilot in F4U's, any model, that I pretty much stay out of all of them, except for the C-Hog, and I only fly it fast and from high. I never have wrapped my brain around their low-speed handling. I always end up stalled and floundering. Taking one into a furball is sure death for me.
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2011, 09:18:41 AM »
Since we have new 'faces' as well as new planes, I thought I would post this. Even if you been in other games other than AH, please say what plane you fly the most and  explain your reason for liking it.


Only fair for me to start. Well the 51D of course. I've always liked the way that it looks and flies in reality and also in the game (despite the not-so-great turning). I've had the chance to fly IN a real one many, many years ago. Also for the game, being I am not the best shot, I like the fact it has lots of ammo too  :rock


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P-38.

 she's a beast.

 she served in every theater of ops that the AAF had a presence. she was in production from before the war, till the end. she produced more american aces than any other.

nuff said.  :aok
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2011, 12:54:48 PM »
Just about anything but a P-51, Spit or Corsair.  I like most of the planes in the game except those. 


Why do I have the feeling you don't like 51s much due to that awesome fight you and I had long time ago? lol. I still remember it well, just not model of 109 you were in. I still regret not recording it.
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2011, 01:05:29 PM »
C-Hog then D, when Vulch is on I up an I-16 to up & turn quick. High speed vulchers have a tough time getting on your 6.  :banana:
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2011, 01:05:58 PM »
P-47D-11 I like her because she can take a ton of hits and still bring you back home safely. She's an ugly plane but gets the job done.  Also, the 8 50s are nice too. :devil

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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2011, 02:48:12 PM »
Just about anything but a P-51, Spit or Corsair.  I like most of the planes in the game except those. 

Just one of the many reasons I now fly a Corsair, right squadie?   :x
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2011, 03:07:21 PM »
P38L. It can bomb and fight. Kinda like a FA18 only with props.

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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 03:36:36 PM »

Why do I have the feeling you don't like 51s much due to that awesome fight you and I had long time ago? lol. I still remember it well, just not model of 109 you were in. I still regret not recording it.

I may have that film somewhere.  Anyway, I was never a fan of those planes IRL and their prevalence in the game is a further turn-off.  They are obviously very capable but most times, a less popular ride is preferred.


And hyzer, I commend your choice of the Corsair as there will never be a second thought about stealing your kills.

 
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2011, 03:43:36 PM »
I'm learning the Jeep. I've been spending some time in the TA with Cactus. He's Jeep elite!!
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2011, 03:46:24 PM »
I may have that film somewhere.  Anyway, I was never a fan of those planes IRL and their prevalence in the game is a further turn-off.  They are obviously very capable but most times, a less popular ride is preferred. 

Cool if you have that film. And I was hoping I was right; Now I have to go pop my swelled head  :bhead   (think that face is about as close to a swelled looking head one I can come up with)
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2011, 03:50:52 PM »
109 g14 and 109F4  for high dogfight
190A8 with AA to intercept Bombers (but b29 is to fast)
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2011, 04:01:24 PM »
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Re: The Plane, The Plane!!
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2011, 04:35:45 PM »
I have been burnt out on the fighters lately so you can normally find me in a Ju87 or possibly the Ki-67.  When I do get back into the fighters, I really like the German iron but can't hit a darn thing with them. If HTC ever puts the 37mm gun pods on the stuka, I would probably fly it almost exclusively.
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