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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #135 on: March 12, 2011, 04:20:40 AM »
It looks like the reactor building blew. The wind was to the north. People were told to stay indoors, don't drink the water, etc. Radiation is 1,045 μSv - equal to about 1 year of radiation in a single dose.

And the amount of radiation released has always been reliably reported .. LOL
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #136 on: March 12, 2011, 04:26:06 AM »
And the amount of radiation released has always been reliably reported .. LOL


hiding information will nobody help, i'm sure the government will adress the nation if it gets realy dangerous...
but i doubt they have all the needed information right now...
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #137 on: March 12, 2011, 04:43:36 AM »
And the amount of radiation released has always been reliably reported .. LOL


Well this isn't Soviet union doing the 'reliable' reporting this time. But this has also implications. While soviets threw countless human lives in the grinder rescuing the plant through suicide this most likely won't be an option for Japan. Containment may be impossible.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #138 on: March 12, 2011, 04:50:40 AM »
hiding information will nobody help, i'm sure the government will adress the nation if it gets realy dangerous...
but i doubt they have all the needed information right now...

Correct it will help no one. But many many times governments and or corps have lied about the dangers to the public. I never take their word for it.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #139 on: March 12, 2011, 04:52:32 AM »
Edit - oops, this might be outdated by 24h.  Forgot about Japanese time zone.
TEPCO press release page - http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html


http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031209-e.html
"four Fukushima Daini reactors shutdown" - Tokyo Electric Power Company

quoting the whole thing here as the JP website seems hard to reach:
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Plant Status of Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station (as of 5AM March 12th )

Unit 1 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Injection of water into the reactor had been done by the Reactor Core
  Isolation Cooling System, but at 3:48AM, injection by Make-up Water
  Condensate System begun.
- At 6:08PM, we announced the increase in reactor containment vessel pressure,
  assumed to be due to leakage of reactor coolant.  However, we do not believe
  there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment vessel at this moment.

Unit 2 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Injection of water into the reactor had been done by the Reactor Core
  Isolation Cooling System, but at 4:50AM, injection by Make-up Water
  Condensate System begun.
- We do not believe there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment
  vessel.

Unit 3 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System is turned off.  Currently, injection
  of water into the reactor is done by Make-up Water Condensate System.
- We do not believe there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment
  vessel.

Unit 4 (shut down at 2:48PM on March 11th)
- Reactor is shut down and reactor water level is stable.
- Offsite power is available.
- Control rods are fully inserted (reactor is in subcritical status)
- Status of main steam isolation valve: closed
- Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System is turned off.  Currently, injection
  of water into the reactor is done by Make-up Water Condensate System.
- We do not believe there is leakage of reactor coolant in the containment
  vessel.

Indication from monitoring posts installed at the site boundary did not show
any difference from ordinary level.
No radiation impact to the external environment has been confirmed. We will
continue to monitor in detail the possibility of radioactive material being
discharged from exhaust stack or discharge canal.
There is no missing person within the power station.
We are presently checking on the site situation of each plant while keeping
the situation of aftershock and Tsunami in mind.
A seriously injured worker is still trapped in the crane operating console
of the exhaust stack and his breathing and pulse cannot be confirmed.
A worker was lightly injured spraining his left ankle and cutting both knees
when he fell while walking at the site. The worker is conscious.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2011, 05:00:28 AM by moot »
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #140 on: March 12, 2011, 05:01:51 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-11-japan-quake-reactors_N.htm

Cross your fingers folks.

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And the amount of radiation released has always been reliably reported .. LOL


Actually it is.  And it constantly hovers around zero.

Little clearing up here is needed.  All I have heard is a possible hydrogen explosion, have no real details on the events leading up to it.
There can be no "nuclear explosion," the fuel is not even close to that level of refinement.  
The fuel, rests inside of a vessel, that vessel rests in a building called the containment building.  
I haven't heard definitive news if the containment building failed or not.  
Even if it does, a radiation release is not going to be the end of the world.
It seems every possible thing that could of went wrong, went wrong.  The levels of redundancy built into plants is ridiculous.  The plant's components sit on huge snubbers to dampen the effects of earthquakes, this goes for all American and Japanese plants.  We're designed to handle these disasters as safely as possible.  
Hopefully for us this was a problem that could not be prevented, and we can learn from it.  
Not a lot of information in my channels yet however.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #141 on: March 12, 2011, 05:03:17 AM »
Local news report that the reactor has blown and the accident is second to Chernobyl only. Only positive thing is that the reactor was much cooler and smaller this time which won't carry the radioactive cloud up to the jetstreams - and wind atm is blowing towards the sea. I guess we can expect new fish species. Japanese officials confirm a large radiation leak.
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« Reply #142 on: March 12, 2011, 05:04:27 AM »
Local news report that the reactor has blown and the accident is second to Chernobyl only. Only positive thing is that the reactor was much cooler and smaller this time which won't carry the radioactive cloud up to the jetstreams - and wind atm is blowing towards the sea. I guess we can expect new fish species.

Second to Chernobyl because that is the only other explosion (non nuclear) at a nuclear power plant.
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« Reply #143 on: March 12, 2011, 05:05:59 AM »
Second to Chernobyl because that is the only other explosion (non nuclear) at a nuclear power plant.

Sorry but the report was talking about contamination levels, not the type of incident.
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« Reply #144 on: March 12, 2011, 05:06:54 AM »
Sorry but the report was talking about contamination levels, not the type of incident.

Second only because this is only the 2nd time anything like this has happened, still holds true
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« Reply #145 on: March 12, 2011, 05:08:32 AM »
Second only because this is only the 2nd time anything like this has happened, still holds true

LOL so whats your angle now, this is no big deal? Officials are collecting iodine and 20km evacuation zone was decided saturday morning.
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« Reply #146 on: March 12, 2011, 05:10:10 AM »
You cannot try and compare Chernobyl to the event in Japan.  They are two completely different types of reactors, two completely different types of plants, two completely different types of events.
Chernobyl was 100% caused by human error.  Chernobyl's reactors also lack containment domes.
The explosion is Chernobyl however, like the one in Japan, was a non-nuclear explosion.  These two plants and events have nothing in common.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #147 on: March 12, 2011, 05:12:14 AM »
but the S*it went out, regardless how or what kind?
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« Reply #148 on: March 12, 2011, 05:12:33 AM »
LOL so whats your angle now, this is no big deal? Officials are collecting iodine and 20km evacuation zone was decided saturday morning.

Iodine will do nothing, your entire body will receive a dose of radiation with or without iodine.  The only thing it accomplishes is making people feel a little safer.
People are being evacuated because that is proper procedure in the event of a radiation release, which was feared to happen, and it did.
I have no angle, just trying to clear up what is actually going on.
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« Reply #149 on: March 12, 2011, 05:14:55 AM »
but the S*it went out, regardless how or what kind?

Well, that makes a huge difference.  It could be just a radiation release, which the winds will drag out to sea with no harm involved.
If contamination is released, it means there will be a very costly cleanup.
The explosion itself is the most dangerous part of what happened, has anyone seen confirmation yet if the containment building dome has failed?
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