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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #345 on: March 16, 2011, 11:06:36 AM »
Seismic activity does have a rythm with sun-spots as well. The rythm of earth activity and solar activity are similar as a graph, - only with a delay.
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« Reply #346 on: March 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM »
Would someone please post one of those nifty "facepalm" pics?




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« Reply #347 on: March 16, 2011, 12:31:53 PM »
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« Reply #348 on: March 16, 2011, 02:44:07 PM »
Good luck to you Rolex.
This is just unbelivable.

This is a good article of the plant structure. I also found out that these plants even though holding together the storage of the spent rods where not placed in any containment like the core. Im just curious how much was ejected from the explosions. Not to mention the fact reactor 3 uses weapon grade plutonium also as a mox fuel. So the spent rods are really deadly. And these reactors have been operational for 40 years. Thats a lot of waste.

http://www.infowars.com/alert-fukushima-coverup-40-years-of-spent-nuclear-rods-blown-sky-high/

Anyway good luck Rolex, and stay safe.
Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #349 on: March 16, 2011, 02:52:39 PM »
Good luck to you Rolex.
This is just unbelivable.

This is a good article of the plant structure. I also found out that these plants even though holding together the storage of the spent rods where not placed in any containment like the core. Im just curious how much was ejected from the explosions. Not to mention the fact reactor 3 uses weapon grade plutonium also as a mox fuel. So the spent rods are really deadly. And these reactors have been operational for 40 years. Thats a lot of waste.

http://www.infowars.com/alert-fukushima-coverup-40-years-of-spent-nuclear-rods-blown-sky-high/

Anyway good luck Rolex, and stay safe.

Their design is similar to the plant I work at.  The spent fuel pool is also in a containment structure, it's just not called the containment building because that is a specific term for the building housing the reactor.  Most American plants are burning old Soviet weapons as well.  We don't just dump them in there however, it is processed into fuel pellets.  It is not explosive.
There is suprisingly little waste even after 40 years of operation.  One pool holds all of our spent fuel, and we still have plenty of room for more.  Fuel lasts for around 6 years in our supersized reactor.
The spent fuel is no more deadly than spent fuel that did not come from nuclear weapons.  
The pool, looks a lot like a normal swimming pool, save for all the equipment used to contain the fuel and keep it cooled.
However, with enough damage, the cooling systems can fail and the fuel can heat up.  
The anti-nuclear groups have for 40 years prevented the nuclear industries from safely disposing of our spent fuel, and now, in cases like Japan, the potential safety of humans can be blamed on those who thought they were doing good.
There are 104 reactors in the United States, every single one of them contains all the nuclear fuel they have spent, on premises.  That's 104 reactor's worth of spent fuel just lying in a swimming pool inside ~100 locations, rather than one single highly secured safe site.

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« Reply #350 on: March 16, 2011, 03:15:26 PM »
For those unsure of what the problem at the plant is as far as the reactor goes...here's a dumb downed summary as far as I can tell.
When a reactor shuts down, there is a lot of residual heat, even after the control rods have been inserted.  With the lost of coolant, this residual heat has stayed high and is taking longer to die off than normal.  The heat is splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen, hydrogen gas buildup in the reactor can lead to an explosion.
In the event of a meltdown, or partial meltdown (neither is a technical term in the industry), the fuel has become so hot it begins to melt.  Three Mile Island's reactor suffered this fate.  However, before the fuel was able to melt it's way out of the Containment structure, it cooled itself around the edges of the flow, sealing itself from any further contamination outside the reactor.
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« Reply #351 on: March 16, 2011, 03:33:48 PM »
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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« Reply #352 on: March 16, 2011, 03:38:03 PM »
<snip>The heat is splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen, hydrogen gas buildup in the reactor can lead to an explosion.<snip>

I can see some people freaking out about this one.  When water reaches just above 800F @ sea level, the molecular bonds holding the hydrogen and oxygen molecules start breaking.  This is not like splitting an atom.
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« Reply #353 on: March 16, 2011, 03:44:54 PM »
I can see some people freaking out about this one.  When water reaches just above 800F @ sea level, the molecular bonds holding the hydrogen and oxygen molecules start breaking.  This is not like splitting an atom.

Thank you for the correction, little too laid back in my explanation.
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« Reply #354 on: March 16, 2011, 04:30:09 PM »
@ warhead, yeah I didn't mean that the plutonium was capable of a nuclear explosion, I was just stating that the plutonium is more dangerous to people. The fuel comes from the salt I and II, and whatever the new reg's are for disposal. I mean it makes sense to utilize the stuff, just a shame though that we can;t figure out how to store the waste. Ofcourse with stuff that has a half life of what 24000 years, I mean jeesh.

Anyway I found this news article intresting.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/16/no_happy_ending_nuclear_experts_say

I try to get my news from other news sources, and compare them before I make a decision. So even though these may be conspiracy sites, don;t judge please, just take all the information you can, and disect it for yourself. Right now, from what I understand that company has had a history of lying to the Japanese Gov't since the 70's, so just remember that our CV battlegroup removed itself from the downwind location because of radiation detection. From what I understand they were 100 miles off the coast. Something doesnt sound right about the minimal risk of leaking.
Anyway again, wish everyone the best through this.
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Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #355 on: March 16, 2011, 04:32:51 PM »
"The nuclear emergency in Japan will be a disaster for global warming activists. For a start, Japan’s own emissions will most likely rise in the medium term, now that so many nuclear plants – one of the most greenhouse-friendly power sources – have been knocked out" Quote WUWT

My home country is just about to shut down 7 nuclear plants. The rest of Europe? Nada.
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« Reply #356 on: March 16, 2011, 04:40:04 PM »
Would someone please post one of those nifty "facepalm" pics?



That should cover that
Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #357 on: March 16, 2011, 05:03:50 PM »
This is some raw footage of the actual tsunami coming in. Different perspective from the interior of a town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuLlIrUYsI&NR=1

That footage was very brave of the camara person.
My gawd its hard to comprihend.
Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #358 on: March 16, 2011, 05:05:22 PM »
damn that driver got out of there pretty quick!
This is some raw footage of the actual tsunami coming in. Different perspective from the interior of a town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuLlIrUYsI&NR=1

That footage was very brave of the camara person.
My gawd its hard to comprihend.

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #359 on: March 16, 2011, 05:19:27 PM »
My home country is just about to shut down 7 nuclear plants. The rest of Europe? Nada.

Let us be the first and show the world it can be done without this poisoning stuff
and they will follow for sure! Nuclear Plants are safe until the unthinkable happen,
and what then????

Just in "The American Embassy in Japan has told Americans to evacuate a radius of 50 miles from the Fukushima nuclear plant."

i still hope for an happy end  :pray

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