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Offline LLogann

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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 11:47:46 AM »
Does anybody know how many points the Axis are being penalized for having two jerks in chutes spotting for the vulchers?

Quote from: Hopper on March 12, 2011, 02:44:08 PM
Anybody have an idea of how many ally planes had to tower premature because the axis hitting a65 last night?
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2011, 03:00:18 AM »
 :uhoh



We got intercepted 29 minutes in tonight.......


So I can only think about the Axis cheating that occurred in frame 2

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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2011, 10:21:08 AM »
Quote from: LLogann on March 19, 2011, 03:00:18 AM
:uhoh

We got intercepted 29 minutes in tonight.......

So I can only think about the Axis cheating that occurred in frame 2
:lol   :rofl   :lol   :rofl  uh huh...
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2011, 08:53:10 PM »
LLogann was drunk, not in game, and ran the log from his phone at some odd hour last night totally freaking out.   :eek:  Very bad form.  That dumb reply last night should never have happened. 

Quote from: gyrene81 on March 19, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
:lol   :rofl   :lol   :rofl  uh huh...

I also just want to add a footnote..... As I was smacked around by several of my brothers for using the C word............  Now I could be completely off base with this and I'm sure the Great members of the SEA CM staff can step in and say I'm a dumbarse and never use that word, ever........  But SEA is different for all the other aspects of the game.  In the MA's and the DA, they're pretty much anything goes areas.  In AvA it is looked at as common courtesy or the SOP of the arena.  But in SEA we have something totally crazy, totally left field, some things that are called rules.  One such rule regards not staying in a chute for more than a few seconds. 

I do not want anybody to think my use of that terrible, terrible word was for anything more than calling out what we, the Allied side, viewed as a rule violation.   

daddog & ghostdancer, sorry for any trouble I may have caused either of you or any member of a wonderful team!   :salute
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2011, 10:29:31 PM »
Quote from: LLogann on March 19, 2011, 08:53:10 PM
But in SEA we have something totally crazy, totally left field, some things that are called rules.  One such rule regards not staying in a chute for more than a few seconds. 

I do not want anybody to think my use of that terrible, terrible word was for anything more than calling out what we, the Allied side, viewed as a rule violation.   

Note that I condone hanging in a chute to call out bandits for your side, and especially not to draw ack fire (which has been stated is not allowed), but there is no rule against hanging in your chute for Intel-gathering.  The rule to which you are referring suggests (using "should" instead of "shall" or "must") that you tower out, and only specifies that capping people with your .45 while on the ground is not allowed.

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Pilots are expected to do their "fighting" from the AC or GV's that they have been assigned to by their CiC. Once you have been shot down, you should be heading to your tower. Shooting of Enemy AC with your .45 while they are on the ground is not allowed. You may be suspended for doing so.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2011, 01:54:33 PM »
I have to agree with DOT on this one also.  The rule states no shooting with your .45.  Nothing against standing there and reporting what you see.  There would be no difference in this or jumping from your destroyed AC, floating down or landing on the ground under the furball and giving check 6's to your members fighting above.  No its not realistic but the game isnt either, its a game and we work with what we have in the hopes of having fun.

I was the AXIS CIC for frame 02 and there were no orders given to conduct intelligence gathering by pilots on the ground.  I don't have any personnel knowledge of this happening at A65 but I believe the ones that saw it.  I suspect that a pilot was shot down and happened to land close to A65 and decided to report intell to the AXIS side.

But I also believe that a pilot in the air or on the ground is still a combatant especially if he is reporting intelligence or you think he is.  And engaging and shooting these pilots would be valid.  I have never had to shot a pilot in a chute or on the ground in the FSO but I would in a heart beat if I thought he was still a combatant and working against my side.  So shotting the pilot in the head with a 37mm is OK with me even if it was on my side.

If the rule is going to be "tightened up" I recommend caution in how it might be written as it will be a slippery slope and would probably lead to other issues in rule creation that we all wont like.  Personally I recommend leaving the rule as is.  It is clear enough and the fact is most personnel don't read the rules and they make assumptions.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2011, 01:59:07 PM »
Quote from: ImADot on March 19, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
Note that I condone hanging in a chute to call out bandits for your side, and especially not to draw ack fire (which has been stated is not allowed),

Stupid spell-check doesn't catch ID10T errors.  I meant to say "Not that I condone...", which is to say I don't think one should hang out in a chute.  The rest of what I said is accurate, though.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2011, 02:39:25 PM »
I have to disagree. The rules say you should go to the tower. Just because intel gathering isn't specifically proscribed doesn't mean you should use that as a loophole.

FSO isn't the MA, and downed pilots in WWII sure weren't radioing intel back to their comrades still flying.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2011, 03:34:15 PM »
I'm not arguing, but just saying that the rules state you should go to the tower, not that you must go to the tower.  The rules do, however, say that you cannot use your .45 to continue the fight against the enemy.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2011, 03:39:03 PM »
I wish that both text and vox functionality in the chute could be arena settings, so they could be turned off, and this wouldn't come up again.

Quote from: shiv on March 20, 2011, 02:39:25 PM
I have to disagree. The rules say you should go to the tower. Just because intel gathering isn't specifically proscribed doesn't mean you should use that as a loophole.

FSO isn't the MA, and downed pilots in WWII sure weren't radioing intel back to their comrades still flying.
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2011, 03:48:49 PM »
I was actually just trying to clear up the use of the C word......................... ...  :bolt:
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2011, 06:03:08 PM »


FSO isn't the MA, and downed pilots in WWII sure weren't radioing intel back to their comrades still flying.
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 Thats for sure. They didnt have the capability to do so. But even if they had the ability they would have just been trying to survive. There were a number of instances where allied aircrew were saved by the enemy military from angry mobs of civilians. Sadly in some cases that didnt happen
 
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2011, 07:09:05 AM »
Damn...

Folks had  :ahand and I missed it this time   :furious

Sorry you got vulched, Jim.

FB's did it to me a few weeks ago.  It sucked.  It was highly effective, also.   :aok

As DD stated, there are ways around it...
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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2011, 07:10:02 AM »
Quote from: LLogann on March 20, 2011, 03:48:49 PM
I was actually just trying to clear up the use of the C word......................... ...  :bolt:

My wife tolerates the C word.

As long as I don't use it when referring to her...       :noid

Quote from: LLogann on March 19, 2011, 03:00:18 AM
:uhoh



We got intercepted 29 minutes in tonight.......


So I can only think about the Axis cheating that occurred in frame 2



... or it wasn't their first trip to the rodeo and they read the allied plans like a book...

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Re: Thanks for vulching me on the rearm pad.
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2011, 08:14:26 AM »
Cheat, not cheap...........    :uhoh
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Quote from: VonMessa on March 21, 2011, 07:10:02 AM
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As long as I don't use it when referring to her...       :noid
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