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SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« on: March 13, 2011, 09:50:39 PM »
I know this has been covered before but DAMN I hate Seagate!

Seagate ST31000340AS....been through 5 or 6 in the last 12 months. Never have been completely satisfied with the purchase of this drive but I had to have one that day and this was all that was in stock at Best Buy.

I knew I was going to loose this current HDD and it finally failed today right in the middle of a backup! Good thing I bought a brand new WD 1TB with 64MB cache back in December just in case this happened.

The bad news is that when it failed it corrupted my back up drive and that has caused a massive failure on my end where I am now struggling to recover data from a dead drive.

The good news is that within 20 minutes from replacing the drive I have the new WD drive completely setup with Win7 64 Bit Ultimate and its humming along nicely.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 11:29:16 PM »
Good thing all I've ever used is WD  :D

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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 01:26:41 AM »
My advice is that whatever brand you use, always install an extra fan to blow directly on your harddrives (or if you have many stacked, directly between the cracks). If you keep them cool you keep them alive.

I had several hdd failures in the old days. Then I started investigating why this was happening and noticed that despite having normal case ventilation, harddrives were running hot especially if there were many of them in the same box (I usually do). After taking the habit of making sure the case had a slot for a harddrive cooler (and installing one, duh) I haven't had a single failure in years.

You can try to save data from your seagate by freezing it in a freezer overnight and then starting it and immediately copying as much as you can. They often work one last time before they're completely bricked.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 01:40:21 AM »
Hard drives are one of the few things I use water cooling for. Koolance HD-50-L06 blocks allow full use of the stacking areas of most cases that use the tray method but Koolance makes blocks for nearly every mounting available.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 03:11:56 AM »
My advice is that whatever brand you use, always install an extra fan to blow directly on your harddrives (or if you have many stacked, directly between the cracks). If you keep them cool you keep them alive.

I had several hdd failures in the old days. Then I started investigating why this was happening and noticed that despite having normal case ventilation, harddrives were running hot especially if there were many of them in the same box (I usually do). After taking the habit of making sure the case had a slot for a harddrive cooler (and installing one, duh) I haven't had a single failure in years.

You can try to save data from your seagate by freezing it in a freezer overnight and then starting it and immediately copying as much as you can. They often work one last time before they're completely bricked.

that's true ripley, my hitachi deathstar, i dropped it twice, one piece is broken in one corner and another piece i use crazy glue to put it back.  but my tempest case has 2 fans blowing on the hd.  no problems yet.  then again, sometimes it's just bad luck i guess.

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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 06:43:34 AM »
Every Seagate drive I ever had died before it should have IMO.

Also I agree that SATA drives tend to run a lot hotter. As noted an extra fan or 2 to keep them cool makes a big difference.

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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 07:41:03 AM »
I think this one is completely gone no matter what I try. As for the fans...I have used cooling fans on HDD's and CD/DVD drives for the last 12 years. It was the best thing to help drives live longer that I have ever done.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 09:40:32 AM »
The 'AS' line of drives are a cheap commodity drive.  I would never rely on them for anything I actually needed.

The 'NS' of drives are a much better product.

Every drive manufacturer has a 'crap' product or product line.  Just like auto manufacturers.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 04:45:54 PM »
The 'AS' line of drives are a cheap commodity drive.  I would never rely on them for anything I actually needed.

The 'NS' of drives are a much better product.

Every drive manufacturer has a 'crap' product or product line.  Just like auto manufacturers.

Reading the title of this thread, the first thing I thought was "there has to be at least one of these threads for every hard drive company in existence."
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 10:20:46 PM »
Yep that is true Sector95 but having 5 of them in the last 12 months and from different build times according to the serial numbers is just stupid unlucky.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 12:12:29 PM »
Hmm, Used Seagate many times. Always seemed good for me.


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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 01:02:16 PM »
Yep that is true Sector95 but having 5 of them in the last 12 months and from different build times according to the serial numbers is just stupid unlucky.

May want to update that it turns out it was your motherboard.

That was you, right?  I'm not confusing threads, am I...?
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 02:46:12 PM »
Motherboard had toasted SATA ports but it was not the motherboards fault...Here is the skinny on what happened according to what I have been told since my motherboard is back at EVGA now.

The HDD caused a fault initially that caused a restart of my system at some point in the night last Saturday and then my PSU spiked somehow in all the restarts to try and get the system back up and running that fried the SATA ports on the motherboard....don't ask how I just am saying what I was told.

SO I RMA'd the power supply back to Thermaltake (waiting to see if they are going to give me a new power supply); RMA'd the motherboard back to EVGA...got a brand new one X58 SLI LE from them to replace the original of same model. Went ahead and bought a new case and power supply; Cooler Master HAF-x 942 and Corsair HX850W. All installed and running like a champ now. Trying a one time slave setup with the old Seagate drive to grab any data that I can like browser favorites, AH folders, etc...so I just went and got an eSATA external enclosure.

BTW Seagate is sending me a check for the full amount that I have spent in shipping for the previous 5 drives and the original cost of the HDD since Best Buy only wants to give me another Seagate HDD to replace the latest one.
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Re: SEAGATE.....worst HDD manufacturer EVER!
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 03:34:39 PM »
that's a first reschke...never heard of any drive mfg reimbursing shipping costs on rma's. good customer service.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 04:05:19 PM »
That's awesome.. glad to hear...

This just goes to show that the power supply means EVERYTHING.

I've had three builds now using seasonic with no problems.  (Well one is a Corsair model that is made by seasonic).  My G/F's computer which I built two years ago using a case/power supply combo has been doing goofy things pretty much ever since it was new.  Started with random crashes while she played Sims3 (I didn't put much thought into it being that the Sims have always had reliability issues) but about six months ago about one out of every ten boots results in a bluescreen.  I don't recall the exact exception code but I remember looking it up and it had something to do with drivers.  Reboot and then it is fine.  Even a reinstall of XP doesn't cure that.  I keep waiting for it to get worse before I waste time trying to track it down.

About a month ago her 'noname' power supply started making noise.. a high pitched 'humming' kind of sound and no it's not coming from the fans.  The noise seems to change in pitch and intensity as she puts more load on the video card.  I'm about to order her a new power supply.. a Seasonic.  How much do you want to bet it'll fix all her issues?