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Offline Penguin

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Color Printer Advice
« on: March 16, 2011, 03:16:04 PM »
Hey there tech-heads!  My dad is trading his color printer for my black-and-white laserjet.  Now I just love to use color, and I'm wondering on how to save ink and keep costs low.  I print around 1-2 sheets every night except weekends, and I use the heaviest, glossiest paper around. 

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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 03:39:10 PM »
I am not sure if you are asking how to cut costs using your dad's color printer, or if you are looking for advice in buying a new printer, so here's an opinion both ways:

It depends on your needs.  There are tons of printers out there, with different advantages/disadvantages.

I personally have a HP 7500A.  But I have the need for wide format printing, and it is also nice to be able to use the WiFi capabilities it has to let the wife print from her laptop or pad without having to go through my computer. The drawback is that it is a 4 tank printer, so I don't get true CMYK reproduction, but the quality is good enough for my needs.  If I should need to print large format at high quality levels, I'd just take the file down to the print shop and have it done.

You mention that you print 1-2 sheets of high gloss, are you primarily printing photos?  I would certainly hope you are not spending money on high gloss paper to print day-to-day stuff like field maps or a e-mail you want to archive :)
If you need to print photos at a higher quality level, that narrows the field down a bit, as you would likely want to look at a 6-8 tank printer (CMYK) such as a Canon Pixma series (the replacement for the i9900 series, which was once the industry standard for professional quality photo printing) over the "standard" 4 tank or less printers (RGB)  (Technically, all printing is CMYK using software conversion but lately there has been a move towards differentiating printers by using the terms, however incorrectly.)  There is a significant price difference, a CMYK printer is going to start in the $200.00 range and go up from there, but like anything else, you get what you pay for.  Wide format narrows it down much further, but unless you have a specific need for it, there is no need to spend the money on it.  Wide format can get expensive fast, especially for pro quality.

I personally would avoid the single or dual cartridge printers for photos of any quality level, as the ink doesn't last long at all in those, and the print quality can vary a lot due to software issues in the CMYK translation.  Also for photos, I have found HP printers to be better, especially for the long term, as they use pigmented ink rather than dye based inks.  Thanks to the lawsuit a few years back, HP no longer kills their ink tanks before they actually go dry, so their biggest drawback is now gone.  Look for a printer with large or "commercial" ink tanks.  This would be along the lines of small business printers or shop printers.  "Home" printers have small ink tanks and a shorter service life, and won't last if you are printing higher volumes or a lot of photos, which is still high volume due to the ink consumption/print times. 

For a general purpose/every day printer that isn't going to print photos more than once or twice a year, or anything else more than a couple times a week, you are fine with just about anything, including single tank printers.  I have had bad experiences with Lexmark and Epson printers, so don't recommend them.  My best experiences have been with Canon and HP.  Both have had better reliability in the long term, and the ink is readily available.

For general money saving tips, it is pretty straight forward. 
If you are not printing a photo you want to keep, don't use gloss photo paper.  For general printing or roughs, I use plain copy paper from the discount store.  Don't pay extra for "Computer" or "inkjet" paper the cheap copier paper is the exact same stuff.  The only difference is in brightness, they bleach the specialty paper more to make it brighter, and unless you really need a higher contrast for some reason, it's wasted money.  And it is only a small difference in brightness to boot. (You practically have to hold them next to each other to see the difference).
Set your printer to the "draft" setting by default.  Again, unless it's something you need to have high quality, why waste ink.  Do you really need presentation quality for a coupon?  (Thinking of my wife on that last one lol ) 
Don't waste money on those ink refill kits.  I have seen a number of printers ruined by them, as they are a poor quality ink.  Also, you have no guarantee of matching the ink type or composition for your printer, and can ruin the print head.  If you shop around online, you can get proper ink cheap enough. The ink tank kits they sell are also the same cheap ink, with feeder tubes that require you to modify your printer (and void the warranty) so that they can bleed all over your desk as well as ruin your print head.  Avoid them.
That's about all you can do that I can think of, other than don't print what you don't need to, I archive most things to a folder on my hard drive, and make a backup copy on disk if it's important enough.  That is much cheaper than printing it.

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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
what brand and model of printer penguin?

i've had a lot of luck using low end (cheap) matte finish photo paper and draft quality printing (low resolution) to extend the use of the color cartridges...unless you're printing out stuff for the family photo album that needs to be high quality...lower the print settings.
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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 04:29:51 PM »
 If I could add to Blackwulfs post,if you decide to go with a 3 color printer,check the cost of ink!

 Not all are the same and some can be outright expensive to run,so do your homework and just because the printer was "onsale" doesnt mean it's a good deal.

  Oh and I agree dont use those cheap refills.....have a printer thats useless because of that ink!



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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 07:15:37 PM »
No, no, my father and I are swapping printers.  I use heavy paper because my binders just eat the regular stuff alive.  The heaviest paper just happened to be glossy.  After a while, I became known for using it, and it seems that its become as much a part of my identity as my handwriting.

As for photo printing, I don't do much, of that.  However, I might decide to start doing it soon because my mom is letting me use her DSLR.  Not to toot my own horn, but it seems that I have a knack for photography and I want to frame some of my better work.

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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 09:16:02 PM »
If you are wanting the gloss paper to have a heavier stock, you can save a lot by using a heavy bond or thin card stock.  If you look around, you can find some that is more like a heavy paper than a card. 
Glossy photo paper is about the most expensive way to go.  You can protect regular paper in a binder with sheet protectors, or if it is pulling loose, there are cheap self-adhesive reinforcement rings you can buy.  I can buy parchment cheaper than gloss photo paper!

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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 09:51:47 PM »
The best way to save ink in a colour printer is to trade it in on a black and white one. The kids don't waste anywhere near the amount of ink anymore.
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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 07:54:41 PM »
The best way to save ink in a colour printer is to trade it in on a black and white one. The kids don't waste anywhere near the amount of ink anymore.
Did this humor just fly over youse guyes heads?

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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 12:33:09 AM »
Did this humor just fly over youse guyes heads?

That's awesome phatzo!  :rofl :rofl :rofl
I suppose a house full of teenagers helps  :cheers:
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Re: Color Printer Advice
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 05:24:07 AM »
I used to use cheap color inkjets. They ended up costing around 10 dollars / printed page - the ink dried out before I managed to use half of it. To make matters worse a replacement ink package cost around the price of a new printer.

Then I switched to color laser, mipoikel pointed me to a good deal on a cheap HP printer - it's perfect for my needs. The ink has stayed good for years and the quality is ok for my needs. For 'serious' photo printing you'd need to get a sublimation printer though.
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