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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 12:27:34 PM »
Jap is not a derogatory term, it's shot for Japanese.  Just like the the Brits (short for British) calling Americans Yanks (short for yankees).

Please don't go looking for things to get offended over needlessly.
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Go to Japan and start saying, "Hey, you Japs need any help with your reactor?"

Not derogatory at all.


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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 12:40:31 PM »
*hijack*

actually wrongway, in japan it would be derogatory to address them by their nationality regardless...but not because they put any stock in the american version of political correctness.

i'm not one for being pc myself...i'm half s. korean and grew up with numerous terms being used to identify me...personally, anyone who uses the politically correct b.s. to get offended on behalf of someone else, needs to vacate this planet...only in american and canada are people silly enough to be that way while the rest of world population could care less about political correctness.
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 12:57:56 PM »
*hijack*

actually wrongway, in japan it would be derogatory to address them by their nationality regardless...but not because they put any stock in the american version of political correctness.

i'm not one for being pc myself...i'm half s. korean and grew up with numerous terms being used to identify me...personally, anyone who uses the politically correct b.s. to get offended on behalf of someone else, needs to vacate this planet...only in american and canada are people silly enough to be that way while the rest of world population could care less about political correctness.

All this nonsense actually inspired me to check wikipedia for an answer.
Although I will never believe there is any reason to get offended over shortening a name.  Jap has only been considered offensive by some people in particular countries after pearl harbor.
In 1905 a road in texas was even named Jap Road in honor of a popular local rice farmer from Japan.

In short, it says that the word is offensive in the United States and England but the term only became derogatory during and after WW2 but was not offensive at all before that.
In Singapore, Australia and Hong Kong it is used freely as a non offensive word.  And in 1970, the Japanese fashion designer Kenzo Takada opened the "Jungle Jap" boutique in Paris.

Now I'm tempted to wonder if I should be offended because someone thought I might be a bit of a racist but that would just continue the cycle and create more BS.

Will it ever be politically incorrect to make fun of the French over their post-Napolean prowess on the battlefield?
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 01:02:47 PM »
Ask my grandfather, who spent 4 years in the South Pacific if he means "Jap" as a term of endearment...

 :rolleyes:

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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2011, 12:47:45 AM »
This thread has taken on a new life all its own. OK,here's my two cents worth;
Years ago, I married the only daughter of a Man (W.W.Cooper) that actually
lived thru the horrors of the 'Baatan Death March' and the horrors that followed.
To my knowledge,the only time this frail old Man had shown any emotions at all
over his ordeal decades ealier was to simply put his head in my lap and sob
uncontrollably. And that was his final release from years of anguish...
W.W. left this world a long time ago, followed shortly by his wife,Martha.
By the way,he upped because of the bombing/rape/pillage of Singapor.

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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2011, 02:56:46 AM »
See Rules #4, #6
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 05:30:53 AM »
See Rule #4
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Offline Dahl

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Re:each to their own.
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 08:05:55 AM »
See Rules #4, #6
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"Those who win write the history books."
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 10:07:35 AM »
I wish the Schräge Musik gun packages for the 110 were available, I think they might be fun against lancasters.

Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?
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Re:each to their own.
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 10:44:32 AM »
See Rules #4, #6
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 02:45:49 PM by Skuzzy »
"Those who win write the history books."
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 10:49:51 AM »
Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?
:lol  :lol  :lol
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 10:57:59 AM »
not... first, we do not have night time where the op would want to use the weapons...second, there are no night fighters in ah...third, most of the bombers one encounters in the arenas have belly turrets so the tactics used with those weapons would be as rewarding as a 6 oclock attack using existing aircraft.
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 12:57:36 PM »
Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?

no thats muzak
Schräge means a few things in German, it can mean Jazz, slanted or strange.

And as far as the term Brit being offensive, that's just crazy talk.

Can we get back on topic or just drop the topic instead of arguing about what offends strangers?
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2011, 08:45:55 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Schräge Musik
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 08:59:31 PM »
Okay............ Using that American badword really had nothing to do with being taken into custody by Metropolitan Police.  Apparently they take their karaoke wayyyyyyy too seriously though.   :(  Heck, I speak English!!!  But I digress. 

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