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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2011, 07:27:43 PM »
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2011, 07:48:12 PM »
can you be any more of a kiss arse? :rolleyes:
the armor penetration for the STUG III is 2.95 inches. the 105mm howitzer shermans HEAT rounds are 6 inches.only thing the stug has over the 105 is reload time.

I hate to burst your bubble but the 7.5 cm KwK 40 was a better anti-tank gun than the compared to the low velocity 105mm howitzer for the reasons I've already stated.  if you can show any verifiable data that says differently, please post it because so far you've failed to post anything to back up your claims.  You've also failed to show the 105mm Sherman being used as in the anti-tank role or how it was better in the anti-tank role than the StuG.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2011, 07:48:33 PM »
mow yards and charge $10 for the whole treatment. alot cheaper than what other ppl charge (Atleast around here). mow 2 yards and you got enough for a month on AH.

theres things you can do to earn money without being in an official job.ask your mom for allowance money. tell her you'll mow the yard for the whole month if she pays for your AH subscription.
just to throw a couple ideas out there.
hmm lets think for a second about that "mow lawns" idea.
its the beggining of spring and nobody has long grass, let alone live grass.
my mom also think that me doing chores shouldnt have to mean me being payed. she thinks that me just helping with the dishes and cleaning up a bit is worth me living in her house.
also nobody wants help from a 14 year old out here because everyone that im surrounded by is a stuck-up snob.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2011, 07:49:57 PM »
so your saying a vehicle that has a fixed forward firing gun and has to use track rotation to get the target within its sights, is faster than a tank that has a rotating turret?


Faster than the manual traverse on the 105mm Sherman, yes it was.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2011, 07:55:29 PM »

you still havent debunked what i said about the 105mm sherman and the stug.

I suggest you re-read this thread again.  A couple of us have.


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which just tells me your not smart enough to do your own research. so your crying to skuzzy to save you because you cant prove what i said wrong.


reading your posts in every thread you've posted in clearly shows that you've failed to do any research on anything yourself.  Just an example, that picture of the Me 262 you posted that you stated was the ground attack version of the plane.  Just a couple of minutes of research would have shown that to be incorrect but you since you didn't do any, you posted wrong information.

Just like you failed to do any research about this subject beyond reading there was a Sherman tank with a 105mm howitzer cannon.  Again, you want this tank not because of any historical value but because for some reason you incorrectly think that this will be some kind of uber tank killer in AH when it won't.  The StuG would be a far more effective tank killer in AH, which if had done even the slightest research would have been able to figure out. 

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2011, 07:57:28 PM »
:lol Ack just drank a can of online whoop bellybutton on you tyrannis....

uh oh...you might call me a kiss bellybutton again.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2011, 08:03:06 PM »
I hate to burst your bubble but the 7.5 cm KwK 40 was a better anti-tank gun than the compared to the low velocity 105mm howitzer for the reasons I've already stated.  if you can show any verifiable data that says differently, please post it because so far you've failed to post anything to back up your claims.  You've also failed to show the 105mm Sherman being used as in the anti-tank role or how it was better in the anti-tank role than the StuG.

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its actually from a book i got my information, i'll post the book name, the page number and both paragraphs on the 105mm and the stug III monday when the library is open.


hmm lets think for a second about that "mow lawns" idea.
its the beggining of spring and nobody has long grass, let alone live grass.
my mom also think that me doing chores shouldnt have to mean me being payed. she thinks that me just helping with the dishes and cleaning up a bit is worth me living in her house.
also nobody wants help from a 14 year old out here because everyone that im surrounded by is a stuck-up snob.
that part, i can relate to.
still, you said its allmost you birthday. there are some places that will unofficially hire a 15 yr old. (when i was 15 i got a job stocking the coolers at a sunoco, the law says 16 tho, so he didnt have me down as officially working there. i'd just come in when he called, restock, then he'd pay me at the end of the week).

and ppl are allready mowing up here in ohio. i just had to mow yesterday before this storm hit us. and if you wanted to take my mowing idea i'd jump on it now and start advertising to ppl before all the bigger mowing ppl start.
 kinda like the "early bird gets the worm" philosophy.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2011, 08:05:21 PM »
I suggest you re-read this thread again.  A couple of us have.


reading your posts in every thread you've posted in clearly shows that you've failed to do any research on anything yourself.  Just an example, that picture of the Me 262 you posted that you stated was the ground attack version of the plane.  Just a couple of minutes of research would have shown that to be incorrect but you since you didn't do any, you posted wrong information.

Just like you failed to do any research about this subject beyond reading there was a Sherman tank with a 105mm howitzer cannon.  Again, you want this tank not because of any historical value but because for some reason you incorrectly think that this will be some kind of uber tank killer in AH when it won't.  The StuG would be a far more effective tank killer in AH, which if had done even the slightest research would have been able to figure out. 

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that me262 pic? the one i corrected myself on before you ever posted in? the one that i clearly labeled in the end by my own research and not yours. your REALLY going to use THAT as an example?  :lol

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2011, 08:15:41 PM »
that part, i can relate to.
still, you said its allmost you birthday. there are some places that will unofficially hire a 15 yr old. (when i was 15 i got a job stocking the coolers at a sunoco, the law says 16 tho, so he didnt have me down as officially working there. i'd just come in when he called, restock, then he'd pay me at the end of the week).

and ppl are allready mowing up here in ohio. i just had to mow yesterday before this storm hit us. and if you wanted to take my mowing idea i'd jump on it now and start advertising to ppl before all the bigger mowing ppl start.
 kinda like the "early bird gets the worm" philosophy.

id get better luck trying to sell clams at the dock to clam fishers than go out and mow lawns around here because i live in one of those "everbody has a perfect and pristine 500 acre yard" areas.

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Re: StuG III-AH's first tank destroyer!
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2011, 08:28:33 PM »
Skorp, Tyran, a little advice:

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