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Offline MachFly

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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 07:23:00 PM »
:D  I've contemplating finding the power or main feed comming out of the anouncer area and pulling it conveniently just at the right time to enjoy my favorite performance, but I figure the world we live in these days it could land me in jail for a night or two on suspicion of commiting an act of terrorism/un-patriotism.

I know what you mean but it's their job to keep talking and make sure your not bored and know what's going on. Imagine an airshow without anyone talking.
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 07:25:50 PM »
I know what you mean but it's their job to keep talking and make sure your not bored and know what's going on. Imagine an airshow without anyone talking.

I used to think that until one day when I was at Duxford, and an announcer was talking over a Spitfire taking off...NO ONE talks over Spitfires.
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 07:27:57 PM »
I used to think that until one day when I was at Duxford, and an announcer was talking over a Spitfire taking off...NO ONE talks over Spitfires.

True  :furious

I take back what I said.
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 08:37:45 PM »
There are a number of airplanes that can do it on the ground. But the C-17 can do reverse thrust in the air. That way if you have to land somewhere in the enemy territory you don't have to be slow and low, you approach the airport at high altitude and do a diving final (What ever speeds I knew before I don't remember so I wont be able to give you numbers).
have any info on the system they use for this?

Airliners can still reverse out of gates with their own engines if the plane can physically do it, however its typically not done unless its the only option. DC-9/MD-80's are known for doing them, the 732's used to (it was an Air Florida 732 that crashed due to icing from doing it), and a few others could. Ive heard from people that lightly loaded 737 classics and NGs along with A32x's can do them as well. The 777 deffinately has the power to do them, though i wouldnt know why you would want to with a plane that big. The 777 is another high performer like the C-17. Some pretty interesting takeoffs in them when lightly loaded.

Its called an assualt landing. We do them in our C-123k every now and then when we arrive at airshows, just depends on whos flying it. Come in relatively fast and level, chop power and dive for the runway.

babalonian, have you never seen the blue angels perform? Fat Albert backs up during every show.

The c17 is an amazing plane. how many other planes can land on a 3500ft dirt strip fully loaded and then take back off still fully loaded?
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 10:15:05 PM »
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Airliners can still reverse out of gates with their own engines if the plane can physically do it, however its typically not done unless its the only option. DC-9/MD-80's are known for doing them, the 732's used to (it was an Air Florida 732 that crashed due to icing from doing it), and a few others could. Ive heard from people that lightly loaded 737 classics and NGs along with A32x's can do them as well. The 777 deffinately has the power to do them, though i wouldnt know why you would want to with a plane that big.

The big reason they dont use reverse is FOD,  plus a multitude of lesser reasons not to use it.
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 10:18:29 PM »
have any info on the system they use for this?

I do not have any official info on the specific systems used in C-17, sorry.
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2011, 10:19:10 PM »
How much thrust can a jet engine supply when in reverse?  Is it anywhere near what its maximum power is?
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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2011, 11:19:11 PM »
It'll go all the way to eleven if you don't stop it. Depending on how the engine is controlled which these days is either a DEEC or a FADEC system that allows a simpler operation from a pilots standpoint. They keep the engines from overspeeding, overtemping, flaming out, compressor stalls, synced with each other and a laundry list of other functions. When reverse is selected either by lifting some paddles on the thrust levers or selecting reverse by unlocking the levers over a mechanical stop depending on the aircraft the computers use several systems to determine the next course of action.  Usually weight on wheels is required for the TRs to deploy however that's not the case for all airplanes some of which don't others need to have wheel spinup criteria met before allowing them to deploy. Once whatever criteria are met to allow the TRs themselves to deploy the clamshell doors (ex. DC9, MD80) or the cascade (ex B737-300 and newer, A320, B777) will open. Once deployed the engine spins up and the exhaust or bypass air is redirected a direction other than backward. Some is directed forward, some sideways and still some isn't redirected depending on the system. Once deployed the engine controllers or computers limit the thrust produced to whatever the limit is for the engine. Other airplanes require manual actuation not to exceed a certain power setting based on rotation speed of the turbines or an internal pressure (EPR).

The engines themselves don't swap directions of rotations but rather redirect the airflow.

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Re: I love the C17
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 06:30:06 AM »
Interesting stuff, thanks!
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