HiTech doesn't have to do this.

[hitech]

Von, you lost me. I think the point of the original post was to procede to explain HTC's position.  I was wondering why people do that?
 
Is it to engraciate themselves to Dale?
Is it because they think Dale can't get his own message out?
Is it because they are affraid all the harsh whining will cause Dale to pack it in one day in an act of exasperation?

Curious as to the reason, and offered that it was unnecessary.

Did I read that wrong? If so, my appologies. 

Fist lets flip this. Why do you post anything about their behavior?

Is it because you wish to make yourself an enemy of Dale?
Is it because you think Dale will get his message out?
Is it because you are afraid that any support of Dales ideas will make them more likely to come to fruition?
I'm curious why you make such a post that is completely unnecessary.

If I have read you post wrong please accept my apologies.

HiTech

[Citabria]

an enemy of the Dale. Is that like an enemy of the State? of Aces High?

[Tyrannis]

"Enemy of the Dale"

sounds like a movie title, actually.

[gpwurzel]

Fwiw, I love this game - ok, maybe not the game itself, but the community behind it. I cant think of any other game where the owner/developer comes on the board, and directly communicates with the community.

Everyone has a different idea where this game should go, me personally, I'm quite happy to leave that to the HTC crew, and just play.

Wurzel

[VonMessa]

yes he does. all that "whining and sobbing and crying" is what tells hitech what people do and dont want.

especially when you have people quiting the game over it. you might see it as "good riddance,n00bs". but to him it prob looks like a loss of $$$.

That's all that most of it is, whining and sobbing.  "I want it my way and I want it now"  Like a 2 year old.  The ones that whine and quit because of it aren't long for this game anyhow as it does not supply the "instant gratification" that the x-box crowd longs for.  If you were in business yourself, you would understand that there are some people out there whose money isn't worth taking as they will never be happy or grateful and will always think that they are owed more for their money but once you take their money, you are committed to trying to appease them as much as the grateful and satisfied customers.


yes he does. if he wants to stay above his competition. you dont think IL2 is constanly releasing updates &chances?
AH is lacking alot of features&aircraft other games have, so if he wants to effectivly compete with them, he needs to keep "supplying this game with constant updates and changes"

If you haven't noticed, this game does not have any direct competition.  It is an anomaly when compared to most other flight sims.  Sure, the eye-candy is not the same as others, but HTC tries to stay as true as possible to the flight model of the real-world a/c depicted in the game.  In the past 5 years, I have had nothing but a positive consumer experience with this company, from the receptionist to the CEO (who btw, answers a lot of posts, personally)  See if you can get the CEO from CapCom, Nintendo, Elec. Arts to respond to a post on their forums or, for that matter, respond to you personally by any means of communication, electronic or otherwise.  I'd wager that the arenas would be populated for a good two years after HTC stopped updating the game  

yes he does, if he wants to earn $$$ for his creation. no one is going to pay to play a game with no online servers.

"if he wants to earn $$$ for his creation" Yes....   IF.  What if he decided to retire, felt that he has made enough money, gets tired of the hassle of running his own company and wants to anonymously write lines of coad for some big gaming company where the only responsibility he has to worry about is going to work and shining a seat with his ass?  I only speculate, but I would like to think that, besides the money, what keeps him going is his love of aviation and affinity for the warbirds that were produced during this era of flight



just my $0.02

btw, i love how you created a thread to whine about whining. kinda sticking your own foot in your mouth bud.

[gyrene81]

yes he does. all that "whining and sobbing and crying" is what tells hitech what people do and dont want.

tyrannis...sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. the childish temper tantrums are the ones that get ignored, even if the issue is legitimate...most aren't but there is not getting away from immature people on the retardnet.

especially when you have people quiting the game over it. you might see it as "good riddance,n00bs". but to him it prob looks like a loss of $$$.

people come and go all the time...the romper room immature types are the most visible...and strangely, it's never a problem with the individual doing all the foot stomping and screaming...even though the rest of the world can see it is.

yes he does. if he wants to stay above his competition. you dont think IL2 is constanly releasing updates &chances?
AH is lacking alot of features&aircraft other games have, so if he wants to effectivly compete with them, he needs to keep "supplying this game with constant updates and changes"

are you seriously comparing ah to il2? you really like crawling out on a limb without thinking...il2 is packaged as a single player flight sim with multiplayer capabilities...neither ubisoft nor maddox host massive multiplayer servers...and player hosted servers have a limit based on the connection speed of the host...they will produce game patches to fix most common glitches until the newest add-on/version of the game is due for release...then all support stops...just like any other retail game creator.

every aircraft in the il2 series uses the flight characteristics of a single model...modify a few points here and there, then call it good...they count on the ill informed young person that buys the games to not notice the difference...and the graphics are not that great...don't have to be, they get your money up front and whatever happens after that is tough luck.

il2 is no more competition for ah than wow is...the closest "competitor" is the outdated, poorly supported warbirds.

you should really learn more about such things...

[Vinkman]

I do not see anything in the OP stating that he knows what HT wants...   

He stated facts.

There is no law that states that HT has to concede to any of our wishes, update the game, or even host this forum (even for non-players), for free.

It may well be in his best interests to do so if they want to stay competitive and solvent, but in no way is it required.

Von, you lost me. I think the point of the original post was to procede to explain HTC's position.  I was wondering why people do that?
 
Is it to engraciate themselves to Dale?
Is it because they think Dale can't get his own message out?
Is it because they are affraid all the harsh whining will cause Dale to pack it in one day in an act of exasperation?

Curious as to the reason, and offered that it was unnecessary.

Did I read that wrong? If so, my appologies.  

[Ardy123]

I wonder if HTC ever feels like a babysitter...

"I don't wanna go to bed... I don't wanna go to bed, My mommy lets me stay up..."

much like....

"I wanna have arena caps, I don't wanna have arena caps, my mommy doesn't give me arena caps..."

[Vinkman]

Fist lets flip this. Why do you post anything about their behavior?

Is it because you wish to make yourself an enemy of Dale?
Is it because you think Dale will get his message out?
Is it because you are afraid that any support of Dales ideas will make them more likely to come to fruition?
I'm curious why you make such a post that is completely unnecessary.

If I have read you post wrong please accept my apologies.

HiTech

Because 97% of the time I've seen someone envoke what you believe, you come in and correct them. So let's cut out the middle man and just let you do it.

[gyrene81]

Von, you lost me. I think the point of the original post was to procede to explain HTC's position.  I was wondering why people do that?
 
Is it to engraciate themselves to Dale?
Is it because they think Dale can't get his own message out?
Is it because they are affraid all the harsh whining will cause Dale to pack it in one day in an act of exasperation?

Curious as to the reason, and offered that it was unnecessary.

Did I read that wrong? If so, my appologies.  

delayed double post?   


you do realize that he could just tell skuzzy to lock or delete all whine posts...especially the most juvenile ones without any word or explanation. sometimes it's healthy for a community to self police a bit...it's one thing to be told to shut up by the company, but having a (for lack of a better word) "peer" saying it gives a different impact.

it's really amazing the complete loss of proper perspective supposed adults have when it comes to this game...hopefully the ones with the toddler mentality don't have children to influence...there are enough stupid people on the planet already.

[Vinkman]

Fist lets flip this. Why do you post anything about their behavior?

Is it because you wish to make yourself an enemy of Dale?

No

Is it because you think Dale will get his message out?

Want to hear Dale's message...just want to here it from DALE , not folks who claim to speak for what Dale believes. 

Is it because you are afraid that any support of Dales ideas will make them more likely to come to fruition?

Dale's Ideas always come to fruition. I'm a big supporter of DALE

I'm curious why you make such a post that is completely unnecessary.

He's posting to tell us how you feel about how we make posts. It seemed valid to ask him how he know's how you feel, and if you gave him permission to speak for you by proxy. 

If I have read you post wrong please accept my apologies.

HiTech

I think you took my post as not liking those who support you. If that is the case, you have mis-read it. I hope the above clarifies. 

[RobMo68]

What people need to keep in mind is that changes to the game that seem so simple and desirable to the person wanting them can create other unforeseen issues with other players.

HTC has to strike the best balance and that is not an easy thing to do.

To relate my experience of what I thought would be the best way to go, when I first started this game, I was disappointed that the main focus of the game was not historical Axis vs Allies game play.
<snip>

Somebody else is already doin that gig, and they've been around just about as long as HT has (and yes, it's another TEXAS based company), and I don't think HT wants to be raining on their parade, atleast not directly anyways, as both companies are just about in the same boat!

...you do realize that he could just tell skuzzy to lock or delete all whine posts...<snip>

You do realise that he could just do that himself, if he wanted to, since he is actively participating in said post/threads!

Just sayin!

[Rino]

I cancelled mine because of to much monkeying around with arenas.  It made game play unbearably boring for the times that I flew.  However it has made it better for others.  It's unfortunate because there were allot of cool updates that I have never seen.  So unless it changes to something closer to the way it was, I don't think I'll be coming back.  They can add all the neat stuff in the world to this game but if game play is boring it won’t make a bit of difference.

     So you hang around on the BBS hoping for what?

[gyrene81]

rino, it's easier to just ignore the people like toetag that troll the forums...the whole "game play got boring because htc did <insert>" is just as much of an excuse as the "i can't get into <arena> with my squad because of caps" poop...i guess the old analogy "if it hurts when you slap yourself in the face, stop slapping yourself" just goes over some people's heads.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

rino, it's easier to just ignore the people like toetag that troll the forums...the whole "game play got boring because htc did <insert>" is just as much of an excuse as the "i can't get into <arena> with my squad because of caps" poop...i guess the old analogy "if it hurts when you slap yourself in the face, stop slapping yourself" just goes over some people's heads.

Excuse me how is it poop again? If the arena is capped youre blocked from joining the same arena with the others and left with the option to a) play alone and b) play on an arena thats practically empty

You do understand that the problem hits mainly the people whose prime time occurs when lwoh splits? You may never experience it on your timezone so youre in false perception of the situatiion. Give it 2-4 hours after the split and both arenas have a fight rolling again. The dead zone just hits euro players.

So how is it poop? whats your magical solution to join the squad and have both arenas filled with playable numbers? I know i gave mine already.